The Hobbit: BotFA Trailer discussion with SPOILERS
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If I'm not mistaken, the express train is the only serious anachronism in LotR. I can't say it bothers me. It's just a technical problem for me. I tend to dislike situations where the narrator knows something the characters don't. It isn't how I think it should be done. ( I dislike narrators as such, so I'm really no judge.)
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One of the great charms of the Hobbit, IMO, is that the narrator knows more than the characters, and often pokes fun at them!
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Passdagas the Brown wrote:Wow. A mere five people here on HoF are interested in talking about the last trailer for the last Middle Earth film by Peter Jackson. Wonder if that says something about waning interest, at least among Tolkien fans...
Make that a 6.
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I watched the trailer and thought it was quite good but I've been trying to avoid both hype-ness and spoileryness so you won't hear much from me for now.Passdagas the Brown wrote:Wow. A mere five people here on HoF are interested in talking about the last trailer for the last Middle Earth film by Peter Jackson.
But if you want topics to talk about: Prediction - Leggy will kill several orcs. Agree/disagree?
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Re: The Hobbit: BotFA Trailer discussion with SPOILERS
Too much CG and too much Azog, and I'm nervous they're going to overplay the element of Sauron and Smaug being in league.,
Still, I enjoyed it. It's very character-centric (for the most part) and looks like the movie will be emotionally satisfying.
Still, I enjoyed it. It's very character-centric (for the most part) and looks like the movie will be emotionally satisfying.
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And four million less than TORN ...Elentári wrote:Passdagas the Brown wrote:Wow. A mere five people here on HoF are interested in talking about the last trailer for the last Middle Earth film by Peter Jackson. Wonder if that says something about waning interest, at least among Tolkien fans...
That's four more than TORC...
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It's just not to my taste—it's one of the things that makes the Hobbit a "children's book," and when I was a child I didn't like winking narrators, either. Even then I preferred to laugh at the characters in my own way!Passdagas the Brown wrote:One of the great charms of the Hobbit, IMO, is that the narrator knows more than the characters, and often pokes fun at them!
“There, peeping among the cloud-wrack above a dark tor high up in the mountains, Sam saw a white star twinkle for a while. The beauty of it smote his heart, as he looked up out of the forsaken land, and hope returned to him. For like a shaft, clear and cold, the thought pierced him that in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach.”
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Tolkien himself came to really dislike that aspect of the book.
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I think Tolkien was wrong.
But in general, I agree about a dislike for winking narrators. It's just that Tolkien, I thought, was a lot funnier than most of them.
But in general, I agree about a dislike for winking narrators. It's just that Tolkien, I thought, was a lot funnier than most of them.
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I thought this place discouraged such wild and baseless speculation. Shame on you, yov.yovargas wrote:I watched the trailer and thought it was quite good but I've been trying to avoid both hype-ness and spoileryness so you won't hear much from me for now.Passdagas the Brown wrote:Wow. A mere five people here on HoF are interested in talking about the last trailer for the last Middle Earth film by Peter Jackson.
But if you want topics to talk about: Prediction - Leggy will kill several orcs. Agree/disagree?
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Hi Res screencaps from the trailer courtesy of Dark Jackal:
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<shakes fist at wimpy hotel wifi>
“There, peeping among the cloud-wrack above a dark tor high up in the mountains, Sam saw a white star twinkle for a while. The beauty of it smote his heart, as he looked up out of the forsaken land, and hope returned to him. For like a shaft, clear and cold, the thought pierced him that in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach.”
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I watched the trailer, and enjoyed it. That's more than I can say about the first two Hobbit films, so I do not have high high hopes for the film--but I have some little low hopes.
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Little low hopes are better than no hopes.
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A Thief in the Night? Looks like Bilbo on top of the barricade...Voronwë the Faithful wrote:What is happening here?
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It's certainly Bard attempting to reach the Windlance.... Is that an ordinary black arrow he's using to climb with?
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Almost certainly Thief in the Night (note that you can also see army campfires in Dale, where Bard and Thranduil are camped). The shot also comes after a shot of Bilbo throwing a rope over the barricade, and hopping over...Voronwë the Faithful wrote:What is happening here?
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I love this shot:
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I think these orcs look closest to how Tolkien described most of them. With more of a simian physiology (long arms, short legs, etc):
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I think these orcs look closest to how Tolkien described most of them. With more of a simian physiology (long arms, short legs, etc):
https://heirsofdurin.files.wordpress.co ... 124249.jpg