The Tolkien Translation Game!
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Not an Elvish one, no.
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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Quoting for the new page:
Voronwë the Faithful wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:25 amThis one is in fact from Unfinished Tales.
Their eyes do not darken or their hearts harden. Look at this with that token!
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Is the speaker from Rohan or Gondor?
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No and no!
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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I've only read UT twice or three times, and the last was over 20 years ago. Not gonna be much help here.
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I guess I'll just stick to the big 3 in the future.
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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Slightly off-topic: If I post a quote by a Nazgûl and somebody asks if it was spoken by a man, should I say yes? I suppose I could say "spoken by a former man", but that might make it too easy.
Ditto for the Mouth of Sauron.
Ditto for the Mouth of Sauron.
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I believe the Mouth of Sauron was actually just a man, though.
For Nazgûl I'd say the gravedigger from Hamlet addressed that question admirably
... Is "their" referring to an actual Kindred of people? Or is this more obscure than that?Eldy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 5:51 am Quoting for the new page:
Voronwë the Faithful wrote: ↑Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:25 amThis one is in fact from Unfinished Tales.
Their eyes do not darken or their hearts harden. Look at this with that token!
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"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
was a 2020 planner.
"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
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Found it.
Olórin to Galadriel, in The Elessar.
"Their eyes are not dimmed nor their hearts hardened. In token of which look upon this!"
Olórin to Galadriel, in The Elessar.
"Their eyes are not dimmed nor their hearts hardened. In token of which look upon this!"
'You just said "your getting shorter": you've obviously been drinking too much ent-draught and not enough Prim's.' - Jude
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The Elessar!
With regard to your question, if it were me, I would feel duty-bound to say that it was a former man or something like that, even if it was more of a hint than I wanted to give.
Your turn, Inanna!
With regard to your question, if it were me, I would feel duty-bound to say that it was a former man or something like that, even if it was more of a hint than I wanted to give.
Your turn, Inanna!
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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Also from the UT:
I go to the sea first thing in the morning
I go to the sea first thing in the morning
'You just said "your getting shorter": you've obviously been drinking too much ent-draught and not enough Prim's.' - Jude
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Was this said by a Númenórean?
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An ancestor...
'You just said "your getting shorter": you've obviously been drinking too much ent-draught and not enough Prim's.' - Jude
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Yes!
'You just said "your getting shorter": you've obviously been drinking too much ent-draught and not enough Prim's.' - Jude
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Does he say this before his encounter with Ulmo?
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No.
'You just said "your getting shorter": you've obviously been drinking too much ent-draught and not enough Prim's.' - Jude
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But you are on the right track.Inanna wrote:No.
'You just said "your getting shorter": you've obviously been drinking too much ent-draught and not enough Prim's.' - Jude
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I’m so curious about this original quote. What did JRRT call it, V?Voronwë the Faithful wrote:The answer to the first question is yes.
The answer to the second is complicated. In the translation it does. In the original, it does not really, even though the original quote is about something that could be described as a token.
'You just said "your getting shorter": you've obviously been drinking too much ent-draught and not enough Prim's.' - Jude