The characters in question were expected NOT to give up on friendship, but in the view of the person being spoken to were doing so.
The meaning of the original quote is not significantly different than the translation.
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"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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To bring to new page:
So the addressee has reason to doubt the speaker's friendship, and the speaker is saying this to reassure him/her?We never give up on friendship.
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Yes, and sort of. Suffice it to say that the person being spoken to thinks that he or she has reason to doubt the friendship of the group the speaker belongs to, and was not at all reassured.
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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Yes!
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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Wait, this might be it:
Olwë to Fëanor?We renounce no friendship.
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That's it!
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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New quote:
Cue the stoner jokes!now! who would have believed it? Weed is stronger than you think.
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Does this refer to the Hobbits’ pipe-weed?
'You just said "your getting shorter": you've obviously been drinking too much ent-draught and not enough Prim's.' - Jude
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I can't resist saying something, but it would be unfair to do so without giving the answer so:
Ioreth to her friend at the House of Healing: "‘The weed is better than I thought. It reminds me of the roses of Imloth Melui when I was a lass, and no king could ask for better.’
Ioreth to her friend at the House of Healing: "‘The weed is better than I thought. It reminds me of the roses of Imloth Melui when I was a lass, and no king could ask for better.’
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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I was about to say "well done!" but then I noticed that you left out the first part of the quote 
Nevertheless, you may take the next turn.
Nevertheless, you may take the next turn.
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Sorry about that. That part didn't even really change!
Here is the new one.
they went to tell him that a stranger had come
Here is the new one.
they went to tell him that a stranger had come
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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Questions? Questions that need answers?
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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From LOTR?
'You just said "your getting shorter": you've obviously been drinking too much ent-draught and not enough Prim's.' - Jude
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Is the translation accurate?
Also, does the quote begin in the middle of a sentence?
Also, does the quote begin in the middle of a sentence?
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Not from LotR.
Relatively accurate.
It doesn't start in the middle of a sentence.
Relatively accurate.
It doesn't start in the middle of a sentence.
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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Is that about Beorn's bees?
If there was anything that depressed him more than his own cynicism, it was that quite often it still wasn't as cynical as real life.
Terry Pratchett, Guards! Guards!
Terry Pratchett, Guards! Guards!
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Not his bees, but that is very close.
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."