Roe v Wade has been overturned. How do you feel about that?

[N.E. Brigand]

Don't Let Greg Decide.

[elengil]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... ska-police

Has this been shared yet?

...Facebook handed the user data of a mother and daughter facing criminal charges for allegedly carrying out an illegal abortion. Private messages between the two discussing how to obtain abortion pills were given to police by Facebook,...

[RoseMorninStar]

No, but it doesn't surprise me.

I've been hearing more about women - women who are not even pregnant - being refused treatment for lupus, rheumatoid or psoriatic arthritis, heart conditions, Crohn's disease, colitis, cancer, and other medical conditions like organ transplants, because doctors &/or pharmacists are afraid to treat them and be held liable for harm to potential pregnancies.

[elengil]

Yeah.

[N.E. Brigand]

A legal reporter at Slate writes: "Florida appeals court affirms an order prohibiting a parentless 16-year-old from terminating her pregnancy on the grounds that she has not proved she is mature enough to get an abortion. So the state will force her to have a child instead." The appeals court's decision is here.

Forced birth, like sex trafficking, is slavery.

In the "Biden's America" thread, I just noted how the FBI has freed hundreds of victims, including children, from sex traffickers in the past two weeks.

[N.E. Brigand]

Consequences.



"She's gonna pass that fetus in the toilet. She's going to have to deal with this on her own. There's a greater than 50% chance that she's going to lose her uterus. There's a 10% chance that she's gong to develop sepsis and herself die."

As I keep saying, forced birth is slavery.

It's also assault and attempted murder.

Samuel Alito should go to jail for what he's done.

[RoseMorninStar]

Yup. They should charge them with murder. 'Cause that's what it is. Not to mention the women who will not get all kinds of care, medical services, and medication. The suffering is incredible. But some want to go even further with the 'personhood' laws making a fertilized egg have all of the same rights as a fully grown person. As a woman who has had miscarriages (through no fault of my own.. miscarriages are incredibly COMMON) I cannot help but wonder if I or women like me would have been/will be charged with murder or been suspected of doing something to cause harm...taking a tylenol or riding a bike. It's a nightmare.

[Frelga]

Good riddance.

A Florida Judge Who Denied A Teen Girl An Abortion Because Of Her Grades Was Voted Out Of Office

[N.E. Brigand]

In Michigan, abortion rights activists have submitted signatures to put an initiative on the November ballot to amend the state constitution to protect reproductive rights and block a 1931 state abortion ban that had previously been overturned by Roe v. Wade -- the initiative requires 425,000 signatures; the activists have submitted 750,000 signatures, so it's likely that Michigan voters will get to vote on this in a few months.

This was only possible because Michigan's initiative deadline hadn't passed and the activists started collecting signatures months before the recent SCOTUS decision.

Despite activists in Michigan having submitted an overwhelming number of valid signatures to put a pro-choice amendment on this year's ballot -- as confirmed by the Michigan Bureau of Elections -- the state's Board of Canvassers, which has two Republicans and two Democrats and needs three votes to approve such measures, blocked the measure by a 2-2 vote from appearing on this year's ballot. The decision will be appealed to Michigan Supreme Court, a narrow majority of whose members were appointed by Democrats, and thus Michiganders probably will get the chance to vote on this issue after all, but it's shocking that it needs to come to that. A blatant disregard for the democratic process.

Forced birth is slavery. The truth will march on.

(Edited to correct a stupid slip of the fingers in the second last sentence. Nothing like being ten minutes into a four-hour window of time when you won't have internet access and suddenly realizing you made a big mistake.)

[Voronwë the Faithful]

[Frelga]

So not actually about state rights.

Lindsey Graham introduces bill which would ban abortions after 20 weeks

Granted, he's likely to fail, as he's been doing for years because it was never about the state rights.

[Voronwë the Faithful]

And from the point of view of politics, the Democrats say:

[RoseMorninStar]

Funny that he would continue evoking Iran and not, say.. Australia, Canada, most of Europe and Asia, etc..

[Sunsilver]

I couldn't hear what the woman was saying about her baby.

[RoseMorninStar]

I couldn't hear her either Suny, so don't feel bad.

[Sunsilver]

I think this will just further stir up women to vote against the Republicans. Hope so, anyway! I only saw ONE post on that Twitter thread that supported him!

[RoseMorninStar]

I know a lot of people on the other side of the aisle. I just don't think the government should be meddling in medical issues.
Sen. Graham states that they (the fetuses') feel pain, well so do children who are mowed down by gunfire in school or at church. They feel pain when they are hungry or homeless. I could go on. If they were so concerned about being 'pro-life' there would be more evidence of it across the board. Instead, this is more punitive/punishment/judgement against women.

[N.E. Brigand]

Yesterday U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, who has previously said that abortion laws should be made at the state rather than the federal level, introduced a bill that would ban abortions nationally at 15 weeks. (But that's already been well documented here.)

Fox News has largely ignored Graham's bill, which is telling. More explicitly, right-wing pundit Charlie Kirk, after making it clear that he is "100% pro-life," says that Graham is engaging in "election interference" to help Democrats by putting the Republican position squarely in public view.

[Voronwë the Faithful]

Yesterday U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, who has previously said that abortion laws should be made at the state rather than the federal level, introduced a bill that would ban abortions nationally at 15 weeks.

The previous six posts in this thread were all on this subject.

[N.E. Brigand]

Yesterday U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, who has previously said that abortion laws should be made at the state rather than the federal level, introduced a bill that would ban abortions nationally at 15 weeks.

The previous six posts in this thread were all on this subject.

Sorry about that. Things have been very busy at work the past few weeks (since just before Labor Day weekend, when I worked about 55 hours in four days -- and while that may be a slow week for some folks, it feels like a lot to me) and I haven't kept up. I looked at the Lasto forum, saw that there were nine threads on top of this one, and didn't look at the timestamps, so I didn't realize that meant that the forum had been very active lately (and not that this thread hadn't been updated lately). I have edited my post.

That said, I think the second half of my post is newsy enough to merit posting.