The Tolkien Translation Game!

[Jude]

No, earlier.

Edit: earlier than LOTR.

[Voronwë the Faithful]

No. In fact, I don't think the Shire was established at this time.

The Shire was established in around 1601 of the Third Age, so if it was before the events of LOTR and not in the appendices, it must be from the Second Age or earlier, unless it is from Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age (which I doubt). Here is the quote for the new page:

New quote:

This government should not be taken lightly. There are many people like you working here.

[Jude]

In that case, it is definitely before the establishment of the Shire.

Edit: also earlier than the Second Age, if that helps.

[Voronwë the Faithful]

First Age, or before the awakening of the Elves (I think it must be the former but it is worth checking).

[Jude]

I believe it's before the awakening of the Elves.

[Eldy]

Is the "you" being addressed in the quote one of the Valar?

[Jude]

Yes!

[Voronwë the Faithful]

Is it one Vala addressing another one of the Valar?

[Jude]

Yes!

[Voronwë the Faithful]

Before or after the creation of the Two Trees?

[Jude]

Good question. Let me check and get back to you...

[Jude]

So, after checking the book, I'm 90% sure that it was spoken before the Two Trees were created.

[Voronwë the Faithful]

Is it spoken between Vala who are spouses of each other?

[Jude]

Definitely not.

Unless a tabloid, “tell-all” edition of The Silmarillion comes out sometime…

[Voronwë the Faithful]

[Voronwë the Faithful]

This is a stretch, but is it Melkor saying to the other Valar: ‘This shall be my own kingdom; and I name it unto myself!’

[Jude]

Keep reading and you'll find it...

[Voronwë the Faithful]

I guess it must be Manwë's response (which does make more sense): Melkor: ‘This kingdom thou shalt not take for thine own, wrongfully, for many others have laboured here no less than thou.’

[Jude]

That's the one!

(and it's a useful quote to keep in mind and trot out when needed)

[Voronwë the Faithful]

Translation Party is back!

Here is the new quote:

We believe that our hearts are facing west and that we will find light there.