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No, earlier.

Edit: earlier than LOTR.
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Jude wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 2:26 pm No. In fact, I don't think the Shire was established at this time.
The Shire was established in around 1601 of the Third Age, so if it was before the events of LOTR and not in the appendices, it must be from the Second Age or earlier, unless it is from Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age (which I doubt). Here is the quote for the new page:
Jude wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2025 3:29 pm New quote:
This government should not be taken lightly. There are many people like you working here.
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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In that case, it is definitely before the establishment of the Shire.

Edit: also earlier than the Second Age, if that helps.
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First Age, or before the awakening of the Elves (I think it must be the former but it is worth checking).
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I believe it's before the awakening of the Elves.
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Is the "you" being addressed in the quote one of the Valar?
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Yes!
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Is it one Vala addressing another one of the Valar?
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Yes!
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