The Tolkien Translation Game!
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Voronwë the Faithful
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I think I was just confusing in my statement. In the original quote, he uses the word "token" more like "in lieu of that" or "as a symbol of that" but not as the actual item, the stone called the Elessar that had been created by Enerdhil (or Celebrimbor). But in the translation it seems to refer directly to the item itself. That's all I meant.
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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You got it, Eldy.
V, I’m now more confused. Will re-read your response when am less sleepy.
V, I’m now more confused. Will re-read your response when am less sleepy.
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Your probably just better off forgetting about it, because what I said just didn't make very much sense!
(Of course, sense is what you make of it.)
(Of course, sense is what you make of it.)
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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Thanks, Inanna!
Elvis, of course, finishes his speech early with a gentle sense of humor.
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Well, of course he did! 
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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Not enough to go on? Translation Party rendered this a good bit shorter than the original quote.
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Did Elvis come from "Elves"?
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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More specifically, from "Elvish."
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He probably did.
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Is it Treebeard, talking about the song he sings about the Ents and Entwives?
‘It is Elvish, of course: lighthearted, quickworded, and soon over.'
‘It is Elvish, of course: lighthearted, quickworded, and soon over.'
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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It is indeed! (I also pasted in the preceding sentence, "That is how it goes," but TranslationParty ended up losing that altogether.)
Your turn, Voronwë!
Your turn, Voronwë!
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This one shouldn't be too hard.
Like all business anyway, what is?. Themselves. I found it. It came to me.
Like all business anyway, what is?. Themselves. I found it. It came to me.
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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Voronwë the Faithful wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 10:12 pm This one shouldn't be too hard.
Like all business anyway, what is?. Themselves. I found it. It came to me.
Is this Bilbo to Gandalf re: the Ring?
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"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
was a 2020 planner.
"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
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Quote?
ETA: in case it is not clear, that is an affirmative response to your question.
ETA: in case it is not clear, that is an affirmative response to your question.
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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‘And what business is it of yours, anyway, to know what I do with my own things? It is my own. I found it. It came to me.’ ?
My eyes passed over this line like 5 times before it occurred to me it might be it?
My eyes passed over this line like 5 times before it occurred to me it might be it?
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"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
was a 2020 planner.
"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
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You gots it!
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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Now, my heart is cold, but that's not a good thing. And if you do not mind, you can live in this house. for I will pay the atonement.
The dumbest thing I've ever bought
was a 2020 planner.
"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
was a 2020 planner.
"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
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Is this from The Silmarillion?
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This must be Mîm to Túrin:
Now my heart is cooled, though it is not glad; and in this house you may dwell, if you will; for I will pay my ransom.