Gun Control Debate

[Frelga]

Oh yes, so much wrong with that picture. Her finger is on the trigger! You don't put your finger on the trigger unless you are ready to shoot someone dead.

I've never fired a handgun but even I can see that she clearly hasn't either.

That's leaving aside how wrong, and illegal, it is to point a gun at people who are walking by on the sidewalk.

If I ever felt the need to defend my house, I'd be doing it from under a cover and not where I will be overrun in seconds and hit over the head with my own gun after the recoil made me smack the gun into my own nose. And my husband wouldn't be pointing the gun at me half the time, ffs.

[Impenitent]

There's all that.

And there's also the mayor using intimidation tactics to silence dissent.

Geez!

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[RoseMorninStar]

When I see the photo of those people in front of their big home with guns aimed at people out front all I can hear is the music from 'The Beverly Hillbillies' playing in my head.

[River]

Showing those elites who's boss...except they live in a mansion and own a law firm.

[Maria]

When I see the photo of those people in front of their big home with guns aimed at people out front all I can hear is the music from 'The Beverly Hillbillies' playing in my head.

Why in the world would they remind you of the Beverly Hillbillies? They are big city lawyers without a lick of common sense. Jed Clampett always seemed like a sensible guy to me- the few episodes I've seen.

[Voronwë the Faithful]

Yeah, they seem like the diametric opposite of the Beverly Hillbillies to me.

[Túrin Turambar]

Ozarks Rockerfellers?

[RoseMorninStar]

When I see the photo of those people in front of their big home with guns aimed at people out front all I can hear is the music from 'The Beverly Hillbillies' playing in my head.

Why in the world would they remind you of the Beverly Hillbillies? They are big city lawyers without a lick of common sense. Jed Clampett always seemed like a sensible guy to me- the few episodes I've seen.

I suppose.. if I had given it much thought.. which I didn't. I haven't read much about the couple. From looking at the photo they reminded me of the Beverly Hillbillies (Granny in particular); in front of a fancy house, barefoot with guns aimed at passersby. Granny would have had her boots on, however.

[Voronwë the Faithful]

The supposedly liberal Ninth Circuit of the Court of Appeals has struck down California's ban on high capacity magazines in a 2-1 opinion. The judge who wrote the opinion is one of the conservative judges anywhere, Kenneth K. Lee, who was appointed by Trump last year and confirmed in a contentious vote by McConnell and his crew, despite the objections of California's two senators. The other vote in favor was from Consuelo Callahan, who was the lead judge in my case before the Ninth Circuit, 13 years ago (and was a leading candidate to be a SCOTUS appointee by George W. Bush, though that never happened). I'm sure that California will seek rehearing before the full court, but those are rarely granted, and I doubt that the SCOTUS would overturn this decision.

https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/ ... -55376.pdf

[RoseMorninStar]

Indeed.

[River]

CO's ban on high-capacity magazines has been standing up. What's different about the CA law?

[Voronwë the Faithful]

Nothing. It is simply a matter of a bad draw of judges. The dissenting opinion points out that other circuits have upheld similar regulations, and that this decision is not consistent with other Ninth Circuit precedent, but to no avail. The only hope is that the full panel takes it up, which is possible but unlikely.

[N.E. Brigand]

On Friday, a federal judge in California struck down that state's ban on assault weapons, which has been on the books since 1989. Here is the opinion. As noted here, on page 47, the judge wrote this, which I believe is untrue:

"More people have died from the Covid-19 vaccine than mass shootings in California."

[Voronwë the Faithful]

He also wrote that an AR-15 was like a Swiss army knife, because it was good for "both home and battle." I'm still trying to get my brain wrapped around that.

It is likely that this decision will be reversed by the Ninth Circuit, but the big question is whether the SCOTUS will take the case on. I would guess that if they do, the ban will be held unconstitutional, ridiculous as such a ruling would be.

[Voronwë the Faithful]

I was going to post this earlier when the site went down. Here is an article at Slate that details a few of the other remarkably wrong statements in Judge Benitez's decision.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/ ... d=msedgntp

[Voronwë the Faithful]

I said in the Roe v. Wade thread that the Texas abortion law had rivals for the the title of the worst law recently passed by the Texas legislature. One might think that I was thinking of the horrible voter suppression laws that they passed recently after the Democrats in the Texas House ended their self-exile, but as bad as that legislation is, that is not what I was referring to. It was this:

New Texas “Unlicensed Carry” Gun Law Lets Just About Anyone Carry a Gun

[Inanna]

That state has gone Go to….

[Dave_LF]

They really seem like they're trying to maneuver into a position where when the next secession bill comes up, the rest of us will say "please do."

[Frelga]

The crazy thing is, Texas is very close to being majority blue. But gerrymandering...

[elengil]

I'm not happy about the numbers, by any means, but I wonder how much the disparity in COVID deaths is going to change demographics. Like, could it actually flip counties that were hard hit?