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Only if you are making a fashion statement. ;)
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CNN has obtained a copy of Peril, the forthcoming book by Bob Woodward and Robert Costa about the 2020 election, the end of Donald Trump's presidency, and the start of Joe Biden's presidency.

Woodward and Costa write that General Mark Milley, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, was so shaken by the events of January 6th that he "single-handedly took top-secret action to limit Trump from potentially ordering a dangerous military strike or launching nuclear weapons." Milley felt that Trump "had gone into a serious mental decline in the aftermath of the election, with Trump now all but manic, screaming at officials and constructing his own alternate reality." Fearing that Trump would go "rogue," Milley told senior military officials only to take any actions involving nuclear weapons if he, Milley, were involved. Milley also made sure that communications were open to China's top military staff, apparently to be ready to de-escalate if Trump should try to launch a war to distract the American public from his post-election shenanigans. And Gina Haspel, the Director of the CIA, warned Milley after the election that because of President Trump's refusal to concede his obvious loss, "We are on the way to a right-wing coup. The whole thing is insanity. He is acting out like a six-year-old with a tantrum." Milley, who like Haspel was appointed by Trump, is clearly the source for much of this reporting. The book also reports that Trump's Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo, told Milley that the President was "in a very dark place right now."

Another focus of CNN's reporting today on the Woodward/Costa book concerns Steve Bannon's involvement in the events of January 6th. A week earlier, Bannon "convinced Trump to come back to the White House from Mar-a-Lago to prepare for the events of January 6," saying, 'You've got to return to Washington and make a dramatic return today ... You've got to call Pence off the [expletive] ski slopes and get him back here today." Bannon told Trump that "this is a crisis" and "the moment for reckoning." Bannon also predicted that, "People are going to go, 'What the [expletive] is going on here? ... We're going to bury Biden on January 6th, [expletive] bury him." (If Trump hadn't pardoned Bannon on Jan. 20 for the fraud charges on which he was indicted, the government might have more ability to pressure Bannon about exactly what his role in the insurrection was.)

Also apparently it was former Vice President Dan Quayle who convinced Vice President Mike Pence that he couldn't overturn the election results. There's something mildly amusing to me about that: in Nov.-Dec. 2016, after Trump won the election, there was a lot of reporting about the comings and goings at Trump Tower in New York. I remember one person who came to visit Trump was Quayle, but no one recognized him.

And the book quotes Senator Lindsay Graham as saying about the possibility of Trump running for President in 2024 that "if he wants to run, then he's going to have to deal with his personality problems ... we've got a very damaged team captain." On the other hand, Graham told Trump that if he ran and won, "it would be the biggest comeback in American history." But here's what Trump's sometime campaign manager Brad Parscale says:

"He had an army. An army for Trump. He wants that back I don't think he sees it as a comeback. He sees it as vengeance."
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So basically Milley is Beregond.
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And Donald Trump has issued a statement that basically proves Milley was right.

Or as Pippin said, "And as for orders, I think you have a madman to deal with, not a lord."
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When I started this thread, I assumed it would run for a few months and quickly get superseded by (presumably) the first Biden Administration thread. I didn't expect it to be active ten months later on pager 118.
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Túrin Turambar wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:47 am When I started this thread, I assumed it would run for a few months and quickly get superseded by (presumably) the first Biden Administration thread. I didn't expect it to be active ten months later on pager 118.
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The thread has 2020 right there in the title. You should have known better than to hold to any kind of reasonable expectations.
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True Dat.
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When I first saw this headline, I thought it was something that was coming out in one of the new books that had happened in January or last December. But it isn't it happened just a few days ago. Think about that.

Trump wrote to Georgia's secretary of state asking him to consider 'decertifying' the 2020 election result
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Let’s not. :P
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What some see as confidence others view as delusion. There are some who live by the motto of believing what you want to believe & it will come true. While that sounds all warm, fuzzy, and positive, it certainly has a dark side.
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