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Not to.
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By?
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Yes.
His philosophy was a mixture of three famous schools -- the Cynics, the Stoics and the Epicureans -- and summed up all three of them in his famous phrase, 'You can't trust any bugger further than you can throw him, and there's nothing you can do about it, so let's have a drink."

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Just to bring it to the new page:
Frelga wrote:OK, quote.
Please make everything mistake. Please proceed.
The original is a simple, single sentence.
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Is "please" in the original?
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No.

Also, the original is in the form of question.
His philosophy was a mixture of three famous schools -- the Cynics, the Stoics and the Epicureans -- and summed up all three of them in his famous phrase, 'You can't trust any bugger further than you can throw him, and there's nothing you can do about it, so let's have a drink."

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Is a synonym of please in the sentence?
'You just said "your getting shorter": you've obviously been drinking too much ent-draught and not enough Prim's.' - Jude
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Sam often ends his sentences with "and no mistake!". Is it one of these?
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Jude wrote:Sam often ends his sentences with "and no mistake!". Is it one of these?
That wouldn’t be a question...
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Inanna wrote:Is a synonym of please in the sentence?
No. I'm thinking that maybe please is there to indicate the question?
Jude wrote:Sam often ends his sentences with "and no mistake!". Is it one of these?
No.
His philosophy was a mixture of three famous schools -- the Cynics, the Stoics and the Epicureans -- and summed up all three of them in his famous phrase, 'You can't trust any bugger further than you can throw him, and there's nothing you can do about it, so let's have a drink."

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Is it Bilbo to the Dwarves during the Unexpected Party?
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No, wrong book.
His philosophy was a mixture of three famous schools -- the Cynics, the Stoics and the Epicureans -- and summed up all three of them in his famous phrase, 'You can't trust any bugger further than you can throw him, and there's nothing you can do about it, so let's have a drink."

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Frodo to Gandalf?
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Not Frodo, yes to Gandalf.
His philosophy was a mixture of three famous schools -- the Cynics, the Stoics and the Epicureans -- and summed up all three of them in his famous phrase, 'You can't trust any bugger further than you can throw him, and there's nothing you can do about it, so let's have a drink."

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So, from the Hobbit, Bilbo speaking to Gandalf.
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Not from the Hobbit, not Bilbo, a Hobbit, speaking to Gandalf.
His philosophy was a mixture of three famous schools -- the Cynics, the Stoics and the Epicureans -- and summed up all three of them in his famous phrase, 'You can't trust any bugger further than you can throw him, and there's nothing you can do about it, so let's have a drink."

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Does the word mistake appear in the original?

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His philosophy was a mixture of three famous schools -- the Cynics, the Stoics and the Epicureans -- and summed up all three of them in his famous phrase, 'You can't trust any bugger further than you can throw him, and there's nothing you can do about it, so let's have a drink."

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Or a synonym thereof?

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Voronwë the Faithful wrote:Or a synonym thereof?

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Yes, or at least it's a translation of a word in the quote. However, the original does not have the negative connotation of a mistake. It's a happy quote. :)
His philosophy was a mixture of three famous schools -- the Cynics, the Stoics and the Epicureans -- and summed up all three of them in his famous phrase, 'You can't trust any bugger further than you can throw him, and there's nothing you can do about it, so let's have a drink."

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