I split this off from the "Punch a Nazi thread. Clearly it deserves its own thread. VtF

I've heard people say that it's not really Nazism until they're building camps. Well, they're building camps to hold thousands of children. What are we waiting for now? Ovens?

https://twitter.com/JohnLGC/status/1007993235392946177

If your Senator is one of the 60 not currently supporting the bill to stop this, the least you can do is call them. It never stops with the people you think it will stop with.

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“It may help to understand human affairs to be clear that most of the great triumphs and tragedies of history are caused, not by people being fundamentally good or fundamentally bad, but by people being fundamentally people.”

- Terry Pratchett & Neil Gaiman, Good Omens

Stephen Colbert said they were using the pretext of giving the children showers to separate them from their parents. What a chill that sent down my spine!

As I posted on FB, remember the last time that pretext was used to separate families?
The building of camps isn't the only thing in this situation that's bringing back memories of WWII and the Holocaust!

And yeah, I also said just what you said, Frelga. EVERYONE in the U.S.A. needs to call their senator, and get this STOPPED!

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When the night has been too lonely, and the road has been too long,
And you think that love is only for the lucky and the strong,
Just remember in the winter far beneath the bitter snows,
Lies the seed, that with the sun's love, in the spring becomes The Rose.

Careful Sunny. The White House flacks find statements like that offensive. Keep it up and they'll just shut down. You need to be kind and patient and extend a hand in understanding while the fine agents of ICE rip infants from their mothers' breasts and toss kids into camps for indefinite stays because asylum seekers belong in jail.

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When you can do nothing what can you do?

Hey, if I REALLY wanted to get into trouble, I'd post this cartoon on FB....

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When the night has been too lonely, and the road has been too long,
And you think that love is only for the lucky and the strong,
Just remember in the winter far beneath the bitter snows,
Lies the seed, that with the sun's love, in the spring becomes The Rose.

Or you could post it here.

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'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'

For the record, I don't support lethal violence (and I know Sunny doesn't, either :sun:).

However, Dr. Seuss had something to say about this, back in 1941.

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“It may help to understand human affairs to be clear that most of the great triumphs and tragedies of history are caused, not by people being fundamentally good or fundamentally bad, but by people being fundamentally people.”

- Terry Pratchett & Neil Gaiman, Good Omens

Frelga, yeah, I know you don't and I don't either. That's why I am only posting it here where people know me.

I also have that Dr Seuss cartoon in my files. Who ever thought it would be relevant in this century?

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When the night has been too lonely, and the road has been too long,
And you think that love is only for the lucky and the strong,
Just remember in the winter far beneath the bitter snows,
Lies the seed, that with the sun's love, in the spring becomes The Rose.

I know that both of you don't support violence. But I still don't want things like that bless-me-father cartoon posted here. Please do not do so in the future.

Sent from my LG G6 using Tapatalk

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'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'

Okay, thanks for clarifying that. I wasn't sure how you felt about it.

It's dark humour born out of frustration and rage, and I probably wouldn't have laughed at, or shared it anywhere pre-Trump.

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When the night has been too lonely, and the road has been too long,
And you think that love is only for the lucky and the strong,
Just remember in the winter far beneath the bitter snows,
Lies the seed, that with the sun's love, in the spring becomes The Rose.

I sympathize, Sunny, I really do—but I agree with Voronwë.

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“There, peeping among the cloud-wrack above a dark tor high up in the mountains, Sam saw a white star twinkle for a while. The beauty of it smote his heart, as he looked up out of the forsaken land, and hope returned to him. For like a shaft, clear and cold, the thought pierced him that in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach.”
― J.R.R. Tolkien, The Return of the King

Holy shit.

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“It may help to understand human affairs to be clear that most of the great triumphs and tragedies of history are caused, not by people being fundamentally good or fundamentally bad, but by people being fundamentally people.”

- Terry Pratchett & Neil Gaiman, Good Omens

Are the jailed and separated families free to leave?

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When you can do nothing what can you do?

They can wait to be deported...

Reuters

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“It may help to understand human affairs to be clear that most of the great triumphs and tragedies of history are caused, not by people being fundamentally good or fundamentally bad, but by people being fundamentally people.”

- Terry Pratchett & Neil Gaiman, Good Omens

To save the embarrassment of being kicked out?

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It makes it easier to align with Russia and North Korea against China and Europe

(I think I'm joking, but it's hard to say anymore)

Ohmigod. I can’t believe this.

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*title copyright: Teremia

'You just said "your getting shorter": you've obviously been drinking too much ent-draught and not enough Prim's.' - Jude (as Merry)

Sadly, I think you've hit the nail on the head.

I am trying to compose a letter to my representatives, but I am struggling. There is so much happening it is overwhelming. Knowing that anything I say will not likely change the view of my representatives doesn't help. It's just awful.

Twitter truth: #TurdReich

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“It may help to understand human affairs to be clear that most of the great triumphs and tragedies of history are caused, not by people being fundamentally good or fundamentally bad, but by people being fundamentally people.”

- Terry Pratchett & Neil Gaiman, Good Omens

CBS. Video in the link

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“It may help to understand human affairs to be clear that most of the great triumphs and tragedies of history are caused, not by people being fundamentally good or fundamentally bad, but by people being fundamentally people.”

- Terry Pratchett & Neil Gaiman, Good Omens

I've been wondering if comparing the situation with the refugee children to the Nazis has been going, you know...a little bit overboard? I mean, one can always hope, right?

Saw this on FB this morning. Changed my mind.

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When the night has been too lonely, and the road has been too long,
And you think that love is only for the lucky and the strong,
Just remember in the winter far beneath the bitter snows,
Lies the seed, that with the sun's love, in the spring becomes The Rose.