Middle-earth [formerly LotR] in New Media
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The first time I read that as “Pern”.
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Primula Baggins wrote:I'm truly glad that through the wonder of modern technology I can share this with you all.
http://missedmanners.wordpress.com/2007 ... -vacation/
Do read the captions, though there is a small amount of less-than-prim language.
lol great stuff.
“I am in fact a Hobbit (in all but size). I like gardens, trees and unmechanized farmlands; I smoke a pipe, and like good plain food (unrefrigerated), but detest French cooking; I like, and even dare to wear in these dull days, ornamental waistcoats. I am fond of mushrooms (out of a field); have a very simple sense of humour (which even my appreciative critics find tiresome); I go to bed late and get up late.”
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So, this is one for those who enjoy an Expanded Universe, or "fan fiction" if you prefer.
https://www.humblebundle.com/books/lord ... s-5e-books
These are all the source books for the LotR RPG, but as well as rules for playing the game there's a wealth of resources for, say, telling a story in Rivendell, or Erebor. Normally the way this works is that they just expand on Tolkiens writings without contradicting any of his published works, but I can't make any promises. Still, for a minimum donation of $15, its worth a read surely!
https://www.humblebundle.com/books/lord ... s-5e-books
These are all the source books for the LotR RPG, but as well as rules for playing the game there's a wealth of resources for, say, telling a story in Rivendell, or Erebor. Normally the way this works is that they just expand on Tolkiens writings without contradicting any of his published works, but I can't make any promises. Still, for a minimum donation of $15, its worth a read surely!
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I've been down the rabbit hole of geneology and have found I have a Proudfoot in my family tree. So far, just one
She does not look happy.
She does not look happy.
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As Gandalf would say, "It's quite cool."
If there was anything that depressed him more than his own cynicism, it was that quite often it still wasn't as cynical as real life.
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Looking happy for photos just wasn't done early on.
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That's quite an interesting photo! Finding & sharing photographs is one thing I've enjoyed about genealogy. But a Proudfoot to boot!!
My heart is forever in the Shire.
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Even if you don't care about video games, I think you'll find this video interesting - a game developer tells a little story about an impressive demo his studio put together as a pitch for a Hobbit video game that never came to be:
I wanna love somebody but I don't know how
I wanna throw my body in the river and drown
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I might have been tempted by that.
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(Though in rewatching scenes from the movie, I like how Gandalf just straight up lets Frodo be the one to test whether it is cool. Like, he uses tongs to fetch it and then drops it in Frodo's hand. I mean, if he'd been even a tiny bit wrong what would have happened?? "Oh, it *is* hot? My bad. Sorry about the burn..."Frelga wrote:As Gandalf would say, "It's quite cool."
But I quite agree! (Late to the party, as always) Narya, what a lovely ancestor! What fortune to have found the picture.
Yov, I'm kind of sad they didn't get to make the game, but I'm glad it at least wasn't a game based on those movies.
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Hey, you know you wanna play that Legolas barrel-hoppinh level!elengil wrote:
Yov, I'm kind of sad they didn't get to make the game, but I'm glad it at least wasn't a game based on those movies.
I wanna love somebody but I don't know how
I wanna throw my body in the river and drown
-The Decemberists
I wanna throw my body in the river and drown
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Elengil, I've always assumed that Gandalf didn't want to touch the Ring with his bare hand. Didn't be already know from Isildur's notes that the Ring was not affected by the fire? Or did he?
Regardless, I wouldn't put it past Gandalf to just drop red hot metal into Frodo's hand.
Regardless, I wouldn't put it past Gandalf to just drop red hot metal into Frodo's hand.
If there was anything that depressed him more than his own cynicism, it was that quite often it still wasn't as cynical as real life.
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I always understood that the 'final' test was the words on the ring. He was almost certain but that one last test was what clinched it. But now I'm not sure if that was from the book (either in the text or an appendix) or if it's something another adaptation introduced?Frelga wrote:Elengil, I've always assumed that Gandalf didn't want to touch the Ring with his bare hand. Didn't be already know from Isildur's notes that the Ring was not affected by the fire? Or did he?
Regardless, I wouldn't put it past Gandalf to just drop red hot metal into Frodo's hand.
I think what made me think of it was seeing several reviews lately comparing adaptations, that was one scene that struck me as funny in contrast. In the cartoon he picks it up (thus proving it was cool first) and then hands it to Frodo, in the movie he uses tongs and just drops it in his hands and I'm like "It's a good thing he was right or that would have burnt like hell!"
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"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
was a 2020 planner.
"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
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But he picked it up from the fire, correct? Hands would still be burnt by fire/hot coals.
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If Gandalf wants to risk his own hands that's one thing, but dropping it into Frodo's hands untested was just kind of a d move.Inanna wrote:But he picked it up from the fire, correct? Hands would still be burnt by fire/hot coals.
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"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
was a 2020 planner.
"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
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Gandalf knew that Frodo's fire would not heat the Ring. He didn't want to touch it because he didn't want to be tempted by it.
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No, what I meant was - he knew it would not burn Frodo. But the coals could have still burnt his hands.elengil wrote:If Gandalf wants to risk his own hands that's one thing, but dropping it into Frodo's hands untested was just kind of a d move.Inanna wrote:But he picked it up from the fire, correct? Hands would still be burnt by fire/hot coals.
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But... didn't he hold it before he threw it into the fire?Voronwë the Faithful wrote:Gandalf knew that Frodo's fire would not heat the Ring. He didn't want to touch it because he didn't want to be tempted by it.
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Yes, which was a clear mistake. I love the way the filmmakers handle this scene with him throwing the envelope in the fire. It both fixes that error, and provides that great visual image of the envelope burning away and revealing the Ring.
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Here is the comparison I was watching (starting at the appropriate scene)
https://youtu.be/4t7KSarpfFM?t=162
(My but that IS a picky tag isn't it? Fine, clickable but not embedded.)
Yes, the cartoon has the problem of the ring not actually being *in* the fire, and of Gandalf just reaching in to pick it up which could have burnt him. And to Voronwë's point, I really do like the envelope burning reveal, which was very effective. I still think it's an amusing contrast to putting Frodo at risk of being burnt if he'd been wrong.
https://youtu.be/4t7KSarpfFM?t=162
(My but that IS a picky tag isn't it? Fine, clickable but not embedded.)
Yes, the cartoon has the problem of the ring not actually being *in* the fire, and of Gandalf just reaching in to pick it up which could have burnt him. And to Voronwë's point, I really do like the envelope burning reveal, which was very effective. I still think it's an amusing contrast to putting Frodo at risk of being burnt if he'd been wrong.
The dumbest thing I've ever bought
was a 2020 planner.
"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
was a 2020 planner.
"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF