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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:00 pm 
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According to the Wikipedia article, the genus was named after the character in the Hobbit. Cool!

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:59 am 
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yovargas wrote:
If that was a low philological jest, I probably wouldn't want to know what a high one looks like.


True.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:26 am 
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Spotted in the Guardian website:

Like the Eye of Sauron: Western Europe's tallest building planned for tiny Danish town

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:00 pm 
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Seems rather foolish, if you ask me. :D


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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2019 4:57 pm 
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So when Sauron temporarily perished in the drowning of Númenor, how did he manage to bring the Ring back with him in his disembodied form?

Is there any reference to him entrusting it to his Nazgûl for safe-keeping? But he expected to come back in his then-present form. At least in the version in HOME v.9, he was laughing right up until the moment he realized Númenor was about to be destroyed.

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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2019 9:16 pm 
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I have wondered that myself, and I don't have a satisfactory answer.

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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2019 5:15 pm 
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Okay, Tolkien actually addressed this very question, in Letter 211, to Rhona Beare, in October 1958:

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Sauron was first defeated by a 'miracle': a direct action of God the Creator, changing the fashion of the world, when appealed to by Manwë: see III p. 317. Though reduced to 'a spirit of hatred borne on a dark wind', I do not think one need boggle at this spirit carrying off the One Ring, upon which his power of dominating minds now largely depended. That Sauron was not himself destroyed in the anger of the One is not my fault: the problem of evil, and its apparent toleration, is a permanent one for all who concern themselves with our world. The indestructibility of spirits with free wills, even by the Creator of them, is also an inevitable feature, if one either believes in their existence, or feigns it in a story.

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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2019 5:19 pm 
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That sounds mostly like "I don't know, he just did, deal with it." Which is endearing, in a way. Personally, I imagine a floating shingle with the Ring on it, which the spirit form of Sauron tows along while being borne on the dark wind.

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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2019 5:54 pm 
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It's interesting to know that I'm not the only one that wondered about this specific thing...

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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2019 8:17 pm 
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Well, the specific question that Ms. Beare was asking was more like "how could Ar-Pharazôn defeat Sauron when Sauron had the One Ring. But others have certainly asked the same question that you asked, Jude. Michael Martinez addressed it on his blog back in 2013.

How Did the One Ring Survive the Downfall of Númenor?

And here is a related Reddit discussion thread from last year that touches on your question.

When Sauron's body was destroyed in the Fall of Númenor, his spirit carried off the Ring. Why didn't it do the same when Isildur destroyed his body a second time?

And some random person who also addresses the question. ;)

36 What happened to the Ring when Númenor was destroyed? (Tolkien)

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