2016 United States Election

[Primula Baggins]

If I had to guess, I'd probably conclude that he doesn't care who wins. He didn't start this to win anything--just for attention and, once he'd gotten going, adulation.

And no, he is not in this for Hillary. He is not in anything for any human being except himself.

[Inanna]

Yes - that is how narcissists behave.

[Voronwë the Faithful]

FBI director James Comey has announced that the FBI has recommended that no charges by brought against anyone regarding Hillary Clinton's emails. His report has plenty of damaging information that can be used against her, primarily that contrary to her claim, there was material that was classified at the time (rather than after the fact) in email that were sent to her private server, but he indicated that “no reasonable prosecutor” would bring a case against her for her handling of classified information on her private server.

I would guess that this means that while the issue will continue to haunt her throughout the campaign, this ends any possibility that it will force her to drop out or be replaced as the nominee.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/06/us/po ... .html?_r=0

[River]

So this is something I've been puzzling over this whole time...would whatever that was on her server have actually been more secure on a government server? Especially in light of the fact that Chelsea Manning willfully leaked a heap of diplomatic cables and Edward Snowden willfully leaked a bunch of stuff from the NSA and then the OPM database got broken into and that's just the incidents I know of off the top of my head? Wouldn't it have been just as foolish to use her .gov address for anything??

[Voronwë the Faithful]

I agree, River. I think the whole thing is much ado about nothing.

[axordil]

I would call it some ado about little. It was sloppy and it looks bad, but it probably didn't have any substantive effect, either on national security or her campaign.

[Voronwë the Faithful]

Oh, I think it has, and will continue to have, a significant negative effect on her campaign, because it feeds this narrative that she is corrupt and untrustworthy.

[axordil]

Oh, I think it has, and will continue to have, a significant negative effect on her campaign, because it feeds this narrative that she is corrupt and untrustworthy.

I think, like Benghazi, anything short of prosecution of one of the Clintons is lost in the scandal-tinged haze that being a Clinton carries with it. That's neither a ringing endorsement nor an accusation of her, or for that matter, a contradiction of what you said... but I think the negative effect is entrenched at this point. The narrative is perilously close to being a cliche.

[River]

The funny thing about Benghazi was it was originally being capitalized on to "get" Obama. When that proved unsuccessful they decided to hang the whole thing on Clinton.

[Cenedril_Gildinaur]

Actually, as a veteran...

I had to take Infosec and Compusec training. It was mandatory. I learned all about the proper handling of classified information and proper use of government computers.

This is a case of "too big to Jail." The laws are meant to apply to the peasants.

[axordil]

DoD regs concerning classified material et al are not the same as DoS regs.

[Maria]

Long ago when I had a Top Secret clearance in the Army, it was made very clear exactly how to treat classified documents.
That was before the age of routine computer use, though, let alone emails, so I know nothing about how they've handled the computer age.

What does DoS stand for?

[Primula Baggins]

Department of State.

[Frelga]

Dungeons of Sorrow

[Primula Baggins]

I like that better.

[Maria]

Ah, thank you. I kept trying to fit DoS into the Secretary part of Secretary of State and it just wasn't working.

[Alatar]

Denial of Service!

[Jude]

Dirty old sod!

[Voronwë the Faithful]

Donovan operated smoothly.

[Jude]

Dentures of Saruman