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Tosh - :D

As for Tom Cruise being a good actor, I dislike watching movies where I'm constantly aware of the fact that The Actor Is Acting In This Movie. Tom Cruise is one of the actors that I feel can never blend into his role. Brad Pitt is another. Harrison Ford is a guy who disappears into the role, for me.

That's the main reason why I don't watch Tom Cruise movies anymore. He remains Tom Cruise Playing A Character. Part of the reason why that happens is because I am reminded of his Scientology silliness every time I see his mug on camera. Not to mention the stories of how touchy he is about his "height". :P
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Not to mention the stories of how touchy he is about his "height".
He could play Frodo in my mini series.
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Tom Cruise? As Frodo?

:rage:

I don't think Frodo needs to be played by a saint, but he needs to be played by someone with innate modesty and the ability to project quiet determination. That isn't Cruise.

Heightwise, though, he's about perfect; instead of using tricks and forced perspective, you'd simply have to not use them. :P
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I think he has the stature for the role. ;)
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I guess being born as Tom Cruise Mapother IV and then growing up to be 5 feet 7 constantly puts you in conflict between your name, which sounds all dynasty like ( Mapother, though? ) and your less than regal size. Or something!
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Primula Baggins wrote:Tom Cruise? As Frodo?

:rage:

I don't think Frodo needs to be played by a saint, but he needs to be played by someone with innate modesty and the ability to project quiet determination. That isn't Cruise.

Heightwise, though, he's about perfect; instead of using tricks and forced perspective, you'd simply have to not use them. :P

Sorry Prim but I have to disagree with you there. Not that I think Cruise could play Frodo, but that an actor needs to have anything innate to play a role. Thats why its called acting. You inhabit someone else's persona. I hope you don't feel that I cannot play the part of a murderous barber without having killed someone first.

Its acting. Acting!
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You're right, Alatar. I guess the way I should have phrased it is that Cruise has an innate boastfulness that is wrong for Frodo, and that he is not enough of an actor to overcome it.

I was thinking specifically of Elijah Wood, who does have (or did have) "innate modesty" that I think helped him in the role. But he was only a teenager at the time. Certainly a good, experienced actor ought to be able to act that without being it.
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Oh sure. Tom Cruise as Frodo. Next thing you know, they'll cast Mel Gibson as Aragorn and Lindsay Lohan as Arwen. :roll:
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WampusCat wrote:Oh sure. Tom Cruise as Frodo. Next thing you know, they'll cast Mel Gibson as Aragorn and Lindsay Lohan as Arwen. :roll:
Yes, and they can have Schwartzenegger as Boromir. He can shout, "I'll be back!" as they push him over Rauros.
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10 more brain cells and Cruise will qualify as a courgette.
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Griffon64 wrote:Not to mention the stories of how touchy he is about his "height".
Touchy about his height? If that were the case why on Earth would he marry a woman who is 5'10" (Nicole Kidman), divorce her, then marry a woman who is 5'8" (Kate Holmes). :?


I'm 5'6", and it has only recently dawned on me how short I actually am compared to most people. (I guess it really hit me at the San Francsico moot. :P ). I guess I was a bit like Gimli, about whom JRD said his portrayal was of someone who didn't realize he is short. Anyway, I'm not touchy about my height, but even I had the good sense to marry someone shorter than I. (Goldberry is just a shade under 5'4".) :D
Alatar wrote:I hope you don't feel that I cannot play the part of a murderous barber without having killed someone first.
Or a carnivorous, human-eating plant. ;)
Griffon64 wrote:I guess being born as Tom Cruise Mapother IV and then growing up to be 5 feet 7 constantly puts you in conflict between your name, which sounds all dynasty like ( Mapother, though? ) and your less than regal size. Or something!
I don't know, Griff. Johannes Chrysostomus Wolfgangus Theophilus Mozart, aka Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, was reportedly very short. Napoleone di Buonaparte, aka Napoléon Bonaparte, was also said to be a short man. We know for a fact that Prince Rogers Nelson, aka Prince, The Artist Formerly Known as Prince, Tafkap, or simply The Artist, is only 5'2". :P
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And Paul Simon's only 5'3". I'm sure of it. The time I hugged him, we were eye to eye. :)
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Prince was late to the Golden Globe awards the other night and couldn't be there to accept the one he won—so the presenter ducked down behind the mike, shortening himself by a foot, and said, "I accept this award for Prince."

Wampus, you got to hug Paul Simon? You lucky!
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What Prince lacks in height he more then makes up in both talent and eccentricity.
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Wow, if eccentricity makes people taller, I bet HoFers are, like, 7+ feet average!
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True that.

:salmon: anyway.
“There, peeping among the cloud-wrack above a dark tor high up in the mountains, Sam saw a white star twinkle for a while. The beauty of it smote his heart, as he looked up out of the forsaken land, and hope returned to him. For like a shaft, clear and cold, the thought pierced him that in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach.”
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Yes, and they can have Schwartzenegger as Boromir.
In my alternative blockbuster Hollywood casting I had him as Treebeard.

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yovargas wrote:Wow, if eccentricity makes people taller, I bet HoFers are, like, 7+ feet average!

As they say in my shtetl, from your mouth to God's ear!
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Post by vison »

I agree with Griffon, Tom Cruise is always Tom Cruise.

He was LOVELY in "Risky Business", though.

Downhill ever since. :D
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Post by Padme »

I agree with Vison here.

And Tom could be the anti-christ...you never know. He does meet some of the criteria.
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