Middle-earth [formerly LotR] in New Media

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A-ha! Yes, here it is!
"How long have you known all this?" asked Frodo again.
"Known?" said Gandalf. "I have known much that only the Wise know, Frodo. But if you mean 'known about this ring,' well, I still do not know, one might say. There is a last test to make. But I no longer doubt my guess."

...

"...Give me the ring for a moment."
Frodo took it from his breeches-pocket, where it was clasped to a chain that hung from his belt. He unfastened and handed it slowly to the wizard. It felt suddenly very heavy, as if either it or Frodo himself was in some way reluctant for Gandalf to touch it.
Gandalf held it up. It looked to be made of pure and solid gold.

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For a moment the wizard stood looking at the fire; then he stooped and removed the ring to the hearth with the tongs and at once picked it up. Frodo gasped.
"It is quite cool," said Gandalf. "Take it."
SEE! LOL Gandalf was certain but it was still not proved - this was the last test before he could know for absolute sure this was Thee One Ring. But he had no fear of touching it, and he certainly did not drop it into Frodo's hand *hoping* it was cool. He tested that himself first!

(I know it's contentious, but I will say it again: for all its faults, the cartoon often gets right per the book what the movie does not. His fear of touching it is a Jackson addition, not from the book)
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Nicely done, elengil.
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There's a youtube channel, "History of Middle Earth", that talks about various aspects of the story and backstory, and he often does have some interesting things to say. Here's his talk about the Scouring of the Shire:

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Here's an idea for a really, really shortened version of LOTR:

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Love the look of these. Map of your Country/State in Tolkien style. The Ireland one is even available in Irish Language variant

https://lordofmaps.com/collections/shop ... 6419455024
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I absolutely adore this:

https://ideas.lego.com/projects/e7429dc ... eb3bda8927
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WOW. I love it.
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That's really cool.
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If you've ever thought, I love LOTR but I wish I could see an ULTRA low budget Russian film adaptation - I have good news for you!

https://www.slashfilm.com/soviet-lord-o ... EX5jtIh7aw
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yovargas wrote:If you've ever thought, I love LOTR but I wish I could see an ULTRA low budget Russian film adaptation - I have good news for you!

https://www.slashfilm.com/soviet-lord-o ... EX5jtIh7aw

:shock: :rofl: :banana:

Turn on auto-translate to English, it's even better
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I watched bits of it.. :rofl: I'll watch the rest later. The hobbits aren't small, but I guess for a low budget production what can one expect.
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As I said on B77, it appears to be a filming of a theater production. Which may explain some things, such as the minimal effects.

It doesn't explain Gandalf the Purple. Or the perpetually high Frodo.

Lobelia is awesome, though. And hey, Tom Bombadil and Barrowdowns.
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Colbert talked about this in his show!
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I'm about 90 minutes in and it's growing on me. If you stop thinking about it in terms of PJ's movies, and just expect a theater production for children based on a quirky foreign story, it's actually quite fun.

Not sure how Legolas... just how.

Eta: one thing about televised theater is that it tends to show up close things that are meant to be watched from a distance, on stage. And this is an odd enough hybrid to make that even more glaring.
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Inanna wrote:Colbert talked about this in his show!
Not surprising!!

Frelga, it's probably a little easier if one understands Russian. I've been trying to watch it with auto-translate and if I didn't know the story it would be pretty confusing. But yeah, I can see where it works as a theatrical play.
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It also helps not to have any investment in the source material. Tolkien has been translated into Russian, but was practically unknown even to those like me, who read quite a bit of translated fantasy and science fiction. So it wasn't an adaptation of a generally beloved tale, as something by Astrid Lindgren or Gianni Rodari.

The translation is quite good, IMO. But I can see how not following the language would make the experience even more surreal.
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