The challenges ahead (Biden's America)

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It's nice to see competent, experienced individuals back in government positions who are loyal to the country and not pandering to an individual.
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I’m very pleased about Janet Yellen, whom I really like.

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Yes, I'm pleased about both of those appointments. Even though Yellen's strong New York accent sometimes grates on my nerves. ;)
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ROFL.
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I'm going to put this here, even if it is a little different.

Why the GOP is so rattled by Rev. Warnock's faith-based Georgia Senate campaign
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Just another proof that the writers of 2020 wouldn't know subtle if it smacked them in the face with a thesaurus.

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I hope we get a better team for the next season.
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Goodness!
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I don't trust anything I read in Newsweek anymore. That doesn't mean this isn't true, but without a different source I have no idea whether it is.
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Voronwë the Faithful wrote:I don't trust anything I read in Newsweek anymore. That doesn't mean this isn't true, but without a different source I have no idea whether it is.
https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/lo ... r/2514255/
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Thanks!
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Frelga wrote:
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Voronwë the Faithful wrote:I'm going to put this here, even if it is a little different.

Why the GOP is so rattled by Rev. Warnock's faith-based Georgia Senate campaign
I haven't avidly been following the Georgia Senate race, but from what I've read I like Rev. Warnock (especially considering the Republican candidates) and agree with many of his ideas/ideals regarding social justice, etc... It annoys me when conservatives believe they 'own' patriotism, morality, faith/spirituality, etc.. and that anyone outside of the Repbulican box is completely devoid of such values. That said, I cringe when I read, "..the gospel should inform politics, and politics are essential to the work of the church."
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I'm going to put this here rather than in the elections results thread because it goes to the challenges that President-elect Biden faces.

Less than 2 in 10 Trump voters are willing to even give Biden a chance – far fewer believe he won the election: report

I can't speak to the accuracy of the numbers cited in the article ("A mere 3% of Trump voters believe Joe Biden beat Donald Trump"), but if they are overstated, clearly a large percentage of the population has bought into this false narrative. While part of the blame for that goes to Trump and his enablers, there needs to be some personal responsibility applied. People are willfully ignoring facts and reality. And that is perhaps the greatest challenge that Biden faces.
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Reminds me of this I just saw recenty



I imagine the next 4 will look startlingly similar.
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The propaganda campaign is depressingly effective. For example, an email/Facebook post has been going round with the alleged quote from Carroll Lewis from, supposedly, The Screwtape Letters. It gives a susceptible person a jolt of awe at the prophetic truth of the quote. Even after you explain that the quote is fake, modern propaganda, that emotional jolt leaves an impact.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-fact ... SKBN24823I
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Frelga wrote:The propaganda campaign is depressingly effective.
So very depressingly true.

elengil, that video, :doh: :nono: The hypocrisy, it burns.
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Frelga wrote:The propaganda campaign is depressingly effective. For example, an email/Facebook post has been going round with the alleged quote from C. S. Lewis from, supposedly, The Screwtape Letters. It gives a susceptible person a jolt of awe at the prophetic truth of the quote. Even after you explain that the quote is fake, modern propaganda, that emotional jolt leaves an impact.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-fact ... SKBN24823I
Just today, Trump attorney Jenna Ellis shared a false quote from Teddy Roosevelt, and when she was called out on it, she responded by saying that even if he didn't say it, it's the kind of thing he would say.

It's pretty amusing to me to see Lewis used this way. Obviously there's a strong religiously conservative aspect to Lewis's works, and any prolific writer is likely to offer some material that can be used by partisans on all sides, but there have been a number of occasions over the past few years where I thought of certain Lewis's works, and in particular of the backstabbing nature of Hell as described in The Screwtape Letters, along with the N.I.C.E. from That Hideous Strength, both of which, not to mention what we learn of Mordor from the overheard conversations between orcs in The Lord of the Rings, have seemed very much like the archetypes for what we know of the Trump administration! See also the 2017 film The Death of Stalin for a good portrayal of such behavior taken to extremes.

*Here's one that I haven't seen discussed before: in That Hideous Strength, Lewis appears to offhandedly endorse "equality of incomes."
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Something the Biden administration should look into: it appears the U.S. murder rate began to rise in 2019. This rise is not limited to areas controlled by Democrats, which is something often claimed by Republicans. And it can't be due to lead, which is now generally believed to have been a major cause of the high rates in violent crime from the late 1960s to the late 1990s. We need to know the cause so we can address it.

(Speaking of crime, two days ago saw the passing of David Dinkins at the age of 93. Dinkins was the mayor of New York City from 1990 through 1993. His successor, Rudy Giuliani, is often credited with reducing the city's crime rates -- and NYC police staged a much-covered protest in 1992 against Dinkins's plan to create an accountability board for police brutality, something which probably contributed to Giuliani's narrow electoral victory in 1993. But if you look at the numbers, crime started dropping in 1991, i.e., under Dinkins, and continued to drop at the same rate under Giuliani. Probably neither of them had much to do with it.)
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N.E. Brigand wrote:
Frelga wrote:The propaganda campaign is depressingly effective. For example, an email/Facebook post has been going round with the alleged quote from C. S. Lewis from, supposedly, The Screwtape Letters. It gives a susceptible person a jolt of awe at the prophetic truth of the quote. Even after you explain that the quote is fake, modern propaganda, that emotional jolt leaves an impact.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-fact ... SKBN24823I
Just today, Trump attorney Jenna Ellis shared a false quote from Teddy Roosevelt, and when she was called out on it, she responded by saying that even if he didn't say it, it's the kind of thing he would say.

It's pretty amusing to me to see Lewis used this way. Obviously there's a strong religiously conservative aspect to Lewis's works, and any prolific writer is likely to offer some material that can be used by partisans on all sides, but there have been a number of occasions over the past few years where I thought of certain Lewis's works, and in particular of the backstabbing nature of Hell as described in The Screwtape Letters, along with the N.I.C.E. from That Hideous Strength, both of which, not to mention what we learn of Mordor from the overheard conversations between orcs in The Lord of the Rings, have seemed very much like the archetypes for what we know of the Trump administration! See also the 2017 film The Death of Stalin for a good portrayal of such behavior taken to extremes.

*Here's one that I haven't seen discussed before: in That Hideous Strength, Lewis appears to offhandedly endorse "equality of incomes."
This is the sort of thing that bothers me about Memorial pages (on Facebook, Twitter, etc.. where other people make posts that are not direct quotes. Of course some pages ar handled well, others are misinformation campaigns.
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