E. All of the above.
(It actually is now 84-15, because one of the simulations now comes to an electoral tie.)
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I would be curious to know, though, what's front and centre on the mind of those who were planning to vote Trump up until a fortnight ago but switched since then.
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It also may not be a switch from Trump to Biden, but a switch from not voting or undecided to Biden?Túrin Turambar wrote:I would be curious to know, though, what's front and centre on the mind of those who were planning to vote Trump up until a fortnight ago but switched since then.
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was a 2020 planner.
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was a 2020 planner.
"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
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That's true as well (plus voting for Trump to not voting). But I'd be curious as to what the driver was in each case. For example, I saw one undecided voter write in a comment that it was Trump's refusal to commit to a peaceful transfer of power that pushed him into voting for Biden.elengil wrote:It also may not be a switch from Trump to Biden, but a switch from not voting or undecided to Biden?Túrin Turambar wrote:I would be curious to know, though, what's front and centre on the mind of those who were planning to vote Trump up until a fortnight ago but switched since then.
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I've heard of more than one veteran who threw their Trump election sign in the garbage in recent weeks, for obvious reasons!
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More Trump signs have gone up in my neighborhood.
I'm not sure this is the place for it, but given the events of last night's debate I thought perhaps this was the best place for it:
I don't know how much the Trump/Pence administration values law & order but Pence sure could use a SWAT team. HA! That was a hubby original.
I'm not sure this is the place for it, but given the events of last night's debate I thought perhaps this was the best place for it:
I don't know how much the Trump/Pence administration values law & order but Pence sure could use a SWAT team. HA! That was a hubby original.
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Conventional wisdom is that Trump's poll numbers are sinking due to the debate plus the discovery that there's a COVID-19 cluster in the West Wing (spiraling into the Pentagon and Senate). This put the pandemic right back in the spotlight and people are generally unhappy with the Federal response. Trump's more-erratic-than-usual behavior since he started taking dexamethasone hasn't helped anything.
I'm curious to see if the numbers revert back to the mean or if this is the way it's going to be until Nov. 3.
I've seen some flags hanging off of cars and trucks in the past week. It may be that the campaign merch is finally available.
I'm curious to see if the numbers revert back to the mean or if this is the way it's going to be until Nov. 3.
I've seen some flags hanging off of cars and trucks in the past week. It may be that the campaign merch is finally available.
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That's the best laugh I've had all day!RoseMorninStar wrote:More Trump signs have gone up in my neighborhood.
I'm not sure this is the place for it, but given the events of last night's debate I thought perhaps this was the best place for it:
I don't know how much the Trump/Pence administration values law & order but Pence sure could use a SWAT team. HA! That was a hubby original.
When the night has been too lonely, and the road has been too long,
And you think that love is only for the lucky and the strong,
Just remember in the winter far beneath the bitter snows,
Lies the seed, that with the sun's love, in the spring becomes The Rose.
And you think that love is only for the lucky and the strong,
Just remember in the winter far beneath the bitter snows,
Lies the seed, that with the sun's love, in the spring becomes The Rose.
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Just to reminder of of when we had a more idealised view of the White House. West Wing cast reunion to recreate a fan-favourite episode on stage
https://ew.com/tv/the-west-wing-reunion ... l-trailer/
https://ew.com/tv/the-west-wing-reunion ... l-trailer/
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Marc has been working on how we can watch since he fiund out about it a week ago. No cigar so far.
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Let me know closer to the time and I'll see if I can help 
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Woot! 
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RoseMorninStar wrote:...but Pence sure could use a SWAT team. HA! That was a hubby original.
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<Why should it matter? Trump got away with it....they just say, "Oh that was BEFORE he became president - he's a changed man now!> [<sarcasm font>]Voronwë the Faithful wrote:Why can't they keep in their pants?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... d=msedgntp
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I was angry when I read about Cal Cunningham too however the double-standard is glaringly pathetic.
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Be that is it may, I don't think that the standards that people are judged by should be lowered to Trump's level. You could say that having an affair doesn't have anything to do with his ability to govern, but it does reflect on his character, and his honesty.
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I agree.Voronwë the Faithful wrote:Be that is it may, I don't think that the standards that people are judged by should be lowered to Trump's level. You could say that having an affair doesn't have anything to do with his ability to govern, but it does reflect on his character, and his honesty.
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Me too, Voronwë.
I said that on FB, and someone brought up Clinton. I said at least HE said he was sorry - Trump has never done that.
I said that on FB, and someone brought up Clinton. I said at least HE said he was sorry - Trump has never done that.
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Just remember in the winter far beneath the bitter snows,
Lies the seed, that with the sun's love, in the spring becomes The Rose.
And you think that love is only for the lucky and the strong,
Just remember in the winter far beneath the bitter snows,
Lies the seed, that with the sun's love, in the spring becomes The Rose.
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Federal judge in Pennsylvania denies Trump campaign voting policy challenges in major ruling
Note that this federal judge was one appointed by Trump himself, not some crazy Obama judge.
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