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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:44 pm 
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I split this off from the "Punch a Nazi thread. Clearly it deserves its own thread. VtF

I've heard people say that it's not really Nazism until they're building camps. Well, they're building camps to hold thousands of children. What are we waiting for now? Ovens?

https://twitter.com/JohnLGC/status/1007993235392946177

If your Senator is one of the 60 not currently supporting the bill to stop this, the least you can do is call them. It never stops with the people you think it will stop with.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:40 pm 
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Stephen Colbert said they were using the pretext of giving the children showers to separate them from their parents. What a chill that sent down my spine!

As I posted on FB, remember the last time that pretext was used to separate families? :nono: :cry:
The building of camps isn't the only thing in this situation that's bringing back memories of WWII and the Holocaust!

And yeah, I also said just what you said, Frelga. EVERYONE in the U.S.A. needs to call their senator, and get this STOPPED!

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:51 pm 
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Careful Sunny. The White House flacks find statements like that offensive. Keep it up and they'll just shut down. You need to be kind and patient and extend a hand in understanding while the fine agents of ICE rip infants from their mothers' breasts and toss kids into camps for indefinite stays because asylum seekers belong in jail.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:29 pm 
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Hey, if I REALLY wanted to get into trouble, I'd post this cartoon on FB.... :devil:


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:01 am 
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Or you could post it here.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:33 pm 
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For the record, I don't support lethal violence (and I know Sunny doesn't, either :sun:).

However, Dr. Seuss had something to say about this, back in 1941.
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Frelga, yeah, I know you don't and I don't either. That's why I am only posting it here where people know me.

I also have that Dr Seuss cartoon in my files. Who ever thought it would be relevant in this century? :cry:

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:56 am 
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I know that both of you don't support violence. But I still don't want things like that bless-me-father cartoon posted here. Please do not do so in the future.

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Okay, thanks for clarifying that. I wasn't sure how you felt about it.

It's dark humour born out of frustration and rage, and I probably wouldn't have laughed at, or shared it anywhere pre-Trump.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:18 am 
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I sympathize, Sunny, I really do—but I agree with Voronwë.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:13 pm 
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Holy shit.

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Sessions says this is not like Nazi Germany "because in Nazi Germany, they were keeping the Jews from leaving the country!" https://t.co/v2BiWN8aXj

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:20 pm 
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Are the jailed and separated families free to leave?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:08 pm 
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They can wait to be deported...

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BREAKING: U.S. plans to announce withdrawal from U.N. Human Rights Council on Tuesday - source https://t.co/z5zex7M2BY

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:51 pm 
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Frelga wrote:
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BREAKING: U.S. plans to announce withdrawal from U.N. Human Rights Council on Tuesday - source https://t.co/z5zex7M2BY

To save the embarrassment of being kicked out?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:34 pm 
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It makes it easier to align with Russia and North Korea against China and Europe

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Ohmigod. I can’t believe this.

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It makes it easier to align with Russia and North Korea against China and Europe

(I think I'm joking, but it's hard to say anymore)

Sadly, I think you've hit the nail on the head.

I am trying to compose a letter to my representatives, but I am struggling. There is so much happening it is overwhelming. Knowing that anything I say will not likely change the view of my representatives doesn't help. It's just awful.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:57 am 
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CBS. Video in the link
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BREAKING: Border Patrol @CBP just gave us this video of the detention facility we toured yesterday in McAllen, Texas. We weren't allowed to bring in cameras, or interview anyone. To be clear: this is government handout video. https://t.co/Zjy80qIZFZ

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I've been wondering if comparing the situation with the refugee children to the Nazis has been going, you know...a little bit overboard? I mean, one can always hope, right?

Saw this on FB this morning. Changed my mind. :cry:


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