The Russia Investigations and other Trump-related cases
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I agree that McMasters, Kelly, & Sessions are not long for this administration. I'm certainly no fan of Sessions, but would he put his racist hate before the security of the nation? I read this morning about an ICE official quitting because he was asked to lie for the administration and he refused to do so. I have hopes that Sessions, Rosenstein, and Francisco have some sort of check/balances plan for Mueller/the good of our nation.
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I don't think there is much that they can do, I'm sorry to say. If Trump fires Sessions and replaces him with someone more compliant (and he or she is confirmed by the Senate) that person can get rid of Mueller. Or just ignore any recommendations that Mueller makes, and even refuse to make them public. Remember, Mueller can't do anything with the approval of the attorney general (or in the current case, the deputy attorney general since Sessions has recused himself for the purposes of the Russia investigation).
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That really doesn't make me feel well. What happened to our system of checks & balances?
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It is congress's job to be a check on the executive branch. It is Congress that is failing
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Hey, maybe they're trying to prove the need for a well regulated militia. Sorry, that's pretty black humour for this hour of the morning.
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I split off the posts about the PA special election into a new thread on the 2018 U.S. congressional elections because they didn't really have anything to do with the Russia investigation and it will be good to have some place to discuss the mid-terms. I left Al's post behind because I didn't understand what he was referring to and I didn't know where it belonged.
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He’s referring to your comment about the congress failing...Voronwë the Faithful wrote: I left Al's post behind because I didn't understand what he was referring to and I didn't know where it belonged.
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I believe Al's post refers to your post just above ... Congress, by failing to execute their duty to be a check on the executive branch, is effectively arguing that a well-organized militia may be needed to pry them out and replace them with a Congress that would do its duty. And the irony is that the GOP, by supporting one of their positions ( more gunz for everyone because profit for gun companies, use 2nd Amendment to argue for it ) is effectively undermining another ( do whatever Trump wants so we can keep our orange rubber stamp )
What I don't understand is that Pence would most likely be every bit the rubber stamp Trump is, but with much less of the inexcusable disregard for the structures of government. Maybe they think Trump's support amongst Republican voters outweighs Pence's, which is a bit grim to contemplate.
ETA: What Inanna said. I'm just more verbose
What I don't understand is that Pence would most likely be every bit the rubber stamp Trump is, but with much less of the inexcusable disregard for the structures of government. Maybe they think Trump's support amongst Republican voters outweighs Pence's, which is a bit grim to contemplate.
ETA: What Inanna said. I'm just more verbose
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But you also actually said more.Griffon64 wrote: ETA: What Inanna said. I'm just more verbose
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Heh. I got it right away. :oAlatar wrote:Hey, maybe they're trying to prove the need for a well regulated militia. Sorry, that's pretty black humour for this hour of the morning.
That the House closed their 'investigation' and seemed to fail their duty had me a bit shook. While this article from Lawfare is a bit dated (Jan. 1, 2018), it helped me understand the process and that killing the investigation wouldn't be so easily done.
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Yes, I know. I was trying to pretend not to.Inanna wrote:He’s referring to your comment about the congress failing...
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Oh. Sorry. The rest of us didn’t let you, did we.Voronwë the Faithful wrote:Yes, I know. I was trying to pretend not to.Inanna wrote:He’s referring to your comment about the congress failing...
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Mueller Subpoenas Trump Organization, Demanding Documents About Russia
It may be recalled that it was reported last year that Trump said that he would consider it a "red line" if Mueller started going after his financial records. Will this be enough to push Trump to try to end the investigation?
Stay tuned!
It may be recalled that it was reported last year that Trump said that he would consider it a "red line" if Mueller started going after his financial records. Will this be enough to push Trump to try to end the investigation?
Stay tuned!
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The WH said the subpoena was issued 'several weeks ago' and was 'old news'. Some guess the subpoenas were issued on Feb. 27, a day when Trump tweeted 'WITCH HUNT' with no explanation. If this is true, nothing has been done yet. Incidentally, this is the same day Sessions, Rosenstein, and Francisco ate at Central Michel Richard, a notable restaurant where people go to be 'seen' almost across the street from the Trump International Hotel and several blocks down Pennsylvania Avenue from the White House.
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Now that McCabe has been disgracefully fired the day before his retirement he has finally spoken out and among other things has confirmed that the ridiculous Nines memo completely mischaracterized his testimony about the Steele dossier and whether it was the basis for the investigation.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... s-memo?amp
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Now that McCabe has been disgracefully fired the day before his retirement he has finally spoken out and among other things has confirmed that the ridiculous Nines memo completely mischaracterized his testimony about the Steele dossier and whether it was the basis for the investigation.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... s-memo?amp
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Firing McCabe in this way was so petty and stupid. I do hope it comes back to bite them in a serious way.
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This is potentially very significant, even though it has gotten scant attention, and may explain why Mueller subpoenaed the Trump Organization.
https://amp.businessinsider.com/felix-s ... ank-2018-3
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A blatant attempt to discredit a witness.Primula Baggins wrote:Firing McCabe in this way was so petty and stupid. I do hope it comes back to bite them in a serious way.
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Is that still a thing?Voronwë the Faithful wrote:This is potentially very significant....
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