That's not what I was doing. My point was if a man finds himself on the receiving end of some crime while engaged in questionable sexual activity, society is perfectly happy to play blame the victim with him too. I picked a different form of victimization in order to keep the scenario realistic; I don't think anyone here is denying that sexual assault happens to women way more often than it does to men. But for the sake of the point...Frelga wrote:Do not compare raping a woman to taking a guy's wallet.
The equivalent situation would be heading to a hotel with a girl and being raped by another woman. So let's imagine that happened, somehow. You don't think the reaction from the peanut gallery would be "well if he wasn't out cruising bars hitting on sleazy women in the first place, it never would have happened"? And, on top of that, this fun little gem: "dude; what are you complaining about?!" And blame the victim is by no means limited to sex either. I live along Lake Michigan. Every year, about a dozen people wind up drowning out there in boating accidents. And every time, the moment the story breaks, what you hear is "well, was he wearing a life jacket? Then it's his own fault!" This is just what people do, with crimes and accidents of all kinds. As long as the problem is the victim and not the system, nothing has to change.The equivalent situation would be the guy heading to a hotel with a girl and being raped by another man.
This was to Alatar, but I want to interject because I've heard this sort of thing a few times now. For what it's worth, I've been a man my entire life, and I have never, ever felt that it would be "normal" for me to get drunk and sleep with a stranger I just met in a bar, or that I could admit to doing this without meeting with social reprobation.Frelga wrote:You are saying that a woman engaging in behavior that is considered normal for men is being reckless