Trump's America

[Voronwë the Faithful]

It's too early to start a 2020 election thread (probably not actually) and I certainly don't want to do so with this joker, so I'll just put this here.

Michael Avenatti Says He Won’t Run For President After All

As Nate Silver (who apparently is about as much of a fan of Avenatti is as I am), said "He would have lost badly and embarrassed himself" but we didn't need that distraction. The Democrats need someone who has integrity and experience, not a Trump clone in reverse.

[RoseMorninStar]

I agree 100%. We don't need another ego-inflated narcissist. The one we have is disaster enough.

[Dave_LF]

Oops

ETA: research shows this is at least a year old, which makes me wonder whether it's real at all

[Primula Baggins]

Oops, Dave!

I listened to the latest "Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me" on my walk this afternoon (U.S. public radio comedic quiz show on news of the current week), and it included a new feature called the "Trump Dump," where a purported Trump statement or action was described to each panelist in turn, and they were asked to decide whether Trump actually said or did this thing over the course of the previous week.

They all did terribly. We now live in a surreal world where the truth about our president's behavior can be worse than seems probable or even possible.

[RoseMorninStar]

Oh my gosh Dave... that is hilarious!

[Frelga]

WaPo

Rex Tillerson: “So often, the president would say, ‘Here’s what I want to do, and here’s how I want to do it.' And I would have to say to him, 'Mr. President, I understand what you want to do, but you can’t do it that way. It violates the law.'” https://t.co/B7yC5ZrYQu

:Q :Q :Q

[Voronwë the Faithful]

I was just coming here to post about that. Here's another article, from Newsweek.

DONALD TRUMP WANTED TO DO ILLEGAL THINGS HE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WERE ILLEGAL, REX TILLERSON SAYS

[yovargas]

Witch Hunt!!!

[RoseMorninStar]

After the CNN bomb scare we get tweets about media being the 'enemy of the people'. He is going to get someone killed. And he doesn't care.

Undisciplined. Entitled. He is not only oblivious to the law, he believes he is above the law. A dictator.

[Voronwë the Faithful]

Witch Hunt!!!

Which hunt?

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[Frelga]

After the CNN bomb scare we get tweets about media being the 'enemy of the people'. He is going to get someone killed. And he doesn't care.

He already did. Twelve people in Pittsburgh were murdered by a man quoting Trump's lies about Soros funding the migrant caravan. That's just the most recent, most directly attributable murder.

[RoseMorninStar]

Yes.

[Frelga]

Meanwhile, Trump responds to Tillerson. I screenshot it because you weren't going to believe me otherwise.

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[yovargas]

Actually, I probably wouldn't have believed you if you told me that he didn't respond by tweeting insults at Rex.

[River]

I used to think the saying "Money can't buy class" was terribly classist. Then Trump happened and I realized that not only can class not be bought, it apparently can't even be inherited. Yeesh.

[Voronwë the Faithful]

I used to think the saying "Money can't buy class" was terribly classist. Then Trump happened and I realized that not only can class not be bought, it apparently can't even be inherited. Yeesh.

I don't know, by all accounts it appears that Mr. Trump inherited his "class" from his father, about whose racism (as someone else noted somewhere here not that long ago) Woodie Guthrie sang about. And it certainly seems that Mr. Trump's children, particularly his namesake son, follow in the same footsteps.

[RoseMorninStar]

Wow. Just wow.
It wouldn't surprise me should he crash & burn (so to speak) but that people are still backing him, covering up for him, that's a head-scratcher.

I guess he also tweeted (I'm not on Twitter) that he thinks today was a great day that vindicated him. Um.. no, I don't think so..

[yovargas]

A Selzer & Co. national poll conducted Nov. 24-27 for Grinnell College found that Trump had a 43 percent approval rating and a 45 percent disapproval rating among all adults. However, his support isn’t distributed equally across different types of communities. He’s enormously popular among residents of rural areas, with a 61 percent approval rating and a 26 percent disapproval rating. In small towns, that breakdown is 44 percent approve vs. 42 percent disapprove. But in suburban areas, only 41 percent of residents approve of the job that Trump is doing as president, while 50 percent disapprove. Trump’s approval rating is lowest among urbanites — 31 percent approve of him while 59 percent disapprove.

I feel like the urban vs rural cultural divide is something that doesn't get enough attention and discussion.

[RoseMorninStar]

I read an article in the last few days that sited a study (I can't recall where I read it or I would link it) that stated something similar yov, but it also broke it down along racial lines. Rural tends to be older, whiter/urban tends to be younger and multi-cultural and not so afraid of 'the browning of America'. I live in one of those older/whiter small towns. If not for a racial component, I really don't get the support for Trump. There seems (to me) to be a blindness that some are willing to accept all sorts of things from Trump (& Co.) that would NEVER fly from a Democratic counterpart.

[Sunsilver]

I used to think the saying "Money can't buy class" was terribly classist. Then Trump happened and I realized that not only can class not be bought, it apparently can't even be inherited. Yeesh.

I don't know, by all accounts it appears that Mr. Trump inherited his "class" from his father, about whose racism (as someone else noted somewhere here not that long ago) Woodie Guthrie sang about. And it certainly seems that Mr. Trump's children, particularly his namesake son, follow in the same footsteps.

http://thehalloffire.net/forum/viewtopi ... dy+guthrie