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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:18 am 
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Has any of these lawmakers gone on record to explain what they expect to happen, in actual real life?


That is an excellent question. Been thinking the same thing. So perplexing.


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I work for a multinational company headquartered in Germany. They have facilities in the UK. In fact, a blockbuster product line is made in the UK. The regulatory compliance and logistics teams are pooping bricks over this.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:00 pm 
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https://youtu.be/Ec02r_Zqqqk

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Plans for a third vote on the deal have been derailed now that Speaker John Bercow has refused to allow another unless it is substantially changed, citing a 400-year-old convention that the same bill may not be voted on again in the same parliament after it has been defeated. Now one minister has suggested having a vote on whether to over-rule the Speaker and allow a third vote. I've never heard of this happening and I have no idea what would happen if they tried it. The Westminster system relies heavily on convention rather than black-letter rules.

Otherwise May is running out of options. A solution would be to dissolve the current parliament and hold an election, which would allow the bill to be presented again in the new one. But there's no guarantee the Government would be re-elected. The minor parties are pushing Corbyn on a second referendum.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:03 am 
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One week out.

The EU (or rather Commissioner Donald Tusk) has told the UK it can only have an extension if Parliament approves May's deal. The speaker has said the deal can't go up for a third vote unamended. I have no idea what will happen next.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:31 pm 
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It seems like it is a kareeming towards a hard Brexit that no one wants, but no one is willing to take steps to avoid.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:34 pm 
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Sometimes events take over and lead to an outcome nobody actually wants. See also: WWI.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:00 pm 
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This is actually very accurate while also very funny in a schadenfreude kinda way


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:02 pm 
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The video above contains the line "because everyone is an a*hole" which frankly seems as good an explanation as anything anyone else came up with.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:53 pm 
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https://twitter.com/dansabbagh/status/1 ... 8811909120

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Love the mail delivery card one.


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The EU commission has agreed to extend Brexit to April 12 to give Parliament more time. The current option being mooted is that every MP will vote on their preferred outcome by ballot. If Parliament agrees to the deal, there were will be a further extension to May 22. There's speculation the Conservative backbench might accept the deal if May resigns, which is being discussed.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:15 am 
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There is also discussion now on allowing the UK to contest the European elections if there is a chance of second referendum.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:24 pm 
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Any predictions as to what will ultimately happen? It's way beyond me!

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No idea at this stage. If I had to bet, I'd say Customs Union.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 5:22 pm 
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Alatar, that video is brilliant.


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We're witnessing the breakdown of England's political class.

With her Cabinet so denuded, is anything other than Brexit getting any attention? The business of government is collecting dust.

Is there a possibility that the Queen could step in and sack May, dissolve Parliament? There's no constitution to disallow it. Not that this would solve anything, but there seems no other path out of current chaos.

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So if I understand things as they stand now correctly, Parliament has taken control of the process from the government, but has now voted no on every alternative to May's plan, after twice rejecting May's plan, and May has offered to resign if they approve her plan on a third vote. And that somehow passing her deal would keep a customs union on the table. Is that basically accurate?

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Pretty much. Also everythings on fire.

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Today Parliament voted on 8 different solutions - cancelling Brexit outright, holding a second referendum, no deal, and five different Brexit models. All eight went down.



They'll vote again on Monday - April Fool's Day.


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