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 Post subject: Re: Ukraine (and Russia)
PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:36 pm 
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Does anyone think Putin was behind Boris Nemtsoz's assassination?

I'm guessing yes...

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 Post subject: Re: Ukraine (and Russia)
PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:07 pm 
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On some level, yes. He was very quick to take control of the investigation.

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 Post subject: Re: Ukraine (and Russia)
PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 3:32 pm 
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I don't think anyone doubts that Putin is behind it. Like, duh.

I don't suppose a reference to Kirov's assassination means anything to posters here, but look it up and watch what unfolds through that lens.

Stalin's playbook. In 2015.

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Yes :(

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:17 am 
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:( Kirov, yes.

Well, we'll see what happens next.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:16 pm 
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I actually have my doubts that Putin is directly behind this murder. There are ultra-nationalist groups in Russian society, who operate semi-autonomously from Putin, which could also be blamed for such a heinous crime. Putin, of course, supports these groups in some way or another, and the Russian government will do its best to protect the perpetrators.

According to my father, who does a lot of business in Russia and Ukraine, the political climate in Moscow has become quite toxic in the last months. Just last week, he nearly got into a physical altercation with some people in a restaurant who wanted him to praise Putin and the Russian government because they identified him as a Westerner.


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 Post subject: Re: Ukraine (and Russia)
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That's why I said "on some level." I'm not convinced that he ordered the "hit" but I am convinced that the death can be tied to the environment that he has created, one way or another.

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"Will no one rid me of this troublesome priest?"
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(originally Henry II about Thomas Becket)

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Bumped for yov, without reviewing if it actually answers his question.

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https://twitter.com/leonidragozin/statu ... 4821097472

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A military officer based near Moscow goes on trial for negligence that led to death of subordinate. He pleads for a more lenient sentence saying that he “took part in an operation in neighbouring country where we, so to say, were not present”. #Ukraine
https://t.co/Ky34F6yxrC

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Today's #Kerch Strait #military escalation by #Russia, threatening navigation to #Ukraine's #SeaofAzov ports of Mariupol & Berdyansk: a detailed report by @RFERL in English

https://t.co/xJy4kF11Cl


It's hard to come by the details at this point, but this seems to be a solid take by Garry Kasparov, former chess champion.

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Another dangerous step in Putin's war on Ukraine. And if unopposed, he'll take another and another, until he goes too far and we have the wider conflict everyone thinks they're avoiding by not reacting to his first steps. https://t.co/4PfoQgHHTD

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Trump said, 'I don't like that aggression' but has failed to condemn Russia's actions. He 'may' cancel his G20 meeting with Putin. It will be interesting to see what he does. Or doesn't do.


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So Trump had another secret meeting with Putin without any US officials or translators. Whose side is he on anyway.. (that is increasingly a rhetorical question).


Since this is a thread on Ukraine/Russia I thought I might be able to ask a question here that has nothing to do with politics. I've been doing my family tree and some of my ancestors are Carpatho-Rusyns. I know the language is not the same, but one of the persons has an alias of 'Kutny' which isn't anything like his given or surname. Does anyone have any idea what that means? Is it just a nickname of sorts?


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 Post subject: Re: Ukraine (and Russia)
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Um. Kut is corner in Ukrainian, as of a room or a distant corner of a town/village. Google says that the last name Kutny could also come from words meaning top of a carriage, silk fabric, or a bird trap, but none of that rings any bells. At a wild guess, I'd go with "living in a distant part of town or dead end" as the meaning of the nickname, but I could be way off.

Eta: one article came up with кутный бог, corner god, as one of the names of domovoy, or house spirit. Never heard that one, either, but who knows, with the Carpathians.

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 Post subject: Re: Ukraine (and Russia)
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Thanks for your input Frelga!

:D Yeah.. those Carpathian Rus! :P The particular branch I am thinking of I am pretty sure lived in a very small town (Resov) South of Bardejov so maybe 'Little Corner' has something to do with it. It's odd though since it is a name sometimes listed on official records (such as church records) in addition to the given and surname (which is various forms of Babuscsak/Barbuscak, etc..), so I don't think it was used in a casual nickname sort of way and it's used for multiple persons (siblings). It's sometimes spelled 'Kutin' or 'Kutni' or 'Kutny'. From what I'm finding in records, I don't think literacy/accuracy was terribly important! I have also seen a mix of so many languages.. Greek/Latin, Hungarian, Slovak.. and whatever language the Ruthenians speak.

One other possibility entered my mind, perhaps my gg gma was a widow with young children and the 'Kutny' is the surname of the biological father and they tacked on the new father's name as an adoptive name(?) Another thought is that perhaps for some reason they changed their last name?


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