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 Post subject: Re: Trump's America
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:15 pm 
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Soooooo question - why is Trump making such a big deal about the stupid wall now when he had two years of Rep controlled Congress to work with?
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 Post subject: Re: Trump's America
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:37 pm 
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Soooooo question - why is Trump making such a big deal about the stupid wall now when he had two years of Rep controlled Congress to work with?
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Also, now he can blame Democrats.

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 Post subject: Re: Trump's America
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Democrats should not budge, though. This is Trump trying out dictatorship, and the GOP waiting quietly in the wings to see if it works.

Blame? Taking the "blame" for what amounts to upholding democracy is not a bad thing, no matter what Trump would say.

If the Democrats cave and he gets his wall money, what happens the next time he wants something? He just shuts down government again to get what he wants. Convenient when the democratic process of governing is circumvented and the voice of the people is silenced.

Wait, did I say "Trump"? Ann Coulter basically runs the country now. :roll: Trump will do whatever she says on Fox News he should do, or mocks him for not doing. What a world. Yet his base still thinks he is a strongman. He's not. He's a weakling.


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 Post subject: Re: Trump's America
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Griffy, I agree with you, but it's got to be extraordinarily frustrating, knowing how hard it is on a the people who are bearing the brunt of the burden.

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The furloughed workers I personally know are doing fine, but they are childless and have nice scientist jobs. However, a mom's group I'm part of has a couple members scrambling for childcare. The daycare on the NIST campus is closed due to the shutdown, but that doesn't mean that the families involved don't need care.

Also, the STB is closed which has jacked up my dad and his clients because they can't file. And the FDA is shut down, which is a problem for my employers' customers.

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 Post subject: Re: Trump's America
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Better than relying on doing odd jobs for your landlord to make up for lack of rent money.

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 Post subject: Re: Trump's America
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I thought that was a photoshop...

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/15/us/p ... -food.html

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I thought that was a photoshop...


... so did I. :doh: :nono:

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Not the first time of late where it's hard to tell reality from parody. :neutral:

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 Post subject: Re: Trump's America
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Someone on Facebook pointed out that junk food served up on silver platters is the perfect metaphor for the Trump administration (and for the modern Republican party in general, I'd add).


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 Post subject: Re: Trump's America
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Someone on Facebook pointed out that junk food served up on silver platters is the perfect metaphor for the Trump administration (and for the modern Republican party in general, I'd add).


I'd go so far as to say politics in general.

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 Post subject: Re: Trump's America
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elengil wrote:
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Someone on Facebook pointed out that junk food served up on silver platters is the perfect metaphor for the Trump administration (and for the modern Republican party in general, I'd add).


I'd go so far as to say politics in general.
I don't think it works as a metaphor for Obama's administration. Or the Bushes for that matter. I'm sure there are some pithy ways to be salty about those presidents, but this one is uniquely Trump.

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 Post subject: Re: Trump's America
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Frelga wrote:
elengil wrote:
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Someone on Facebook pointed out that junk food served up on silver platters is the perfect metaphor for the Trump administration (and for the modern Republican party in general, I'd add).


I'd go so far as to say politics in general.
I don't think it works as a metaphor for Obama's administration. Or the Bushes for that matter. I'm sure there are some pithy ways to be salty about those presidents, but this one is uniquely Trump.


Oh, but it does in so many ways. I think we see Trump as so singularly bad we have sort of glossed over that politics was bought by the wealthy and corporations a long time ago. Both sides. Politicians differ only in who they cater to to get elected, but they still vote for those who bought them.
https://represent.us/action/no-the-problem/

Both parties do this. No one administration, no. No one president, but politicians, congress. They literally don't care what we want, they will put their piles of 'crap' on silver platters and tell us it's fine cuisine and how much better our lives be while they're really taking care of the richest of the rich.

We just didn't see it as clearly as we do now. But I don't believe this is new. Rather, it's just so bloody blatant! It isn't new they've just stopped trying to pretend it isn't going on because they have such a cult-like hold on their constituents who will keep voting for them because "at least he isn't an F'ing [Republican/Democrat]!"

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 Post subject: Re: Trump's America
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While no rational person would forget that politics are driven by money and influence, it is equally dangerous to succumb to the "they are all the same" line of thinking.

Is Hilary Clinton beholden to someone's money? Probably. But with President Clinton, our national discussion would have been about expanding access to health care and education, and we wouldn't have nearly as many industry insiders regulating the same industries where they made their money and plan to do so in the future. The climate change would have been addressed in a far more reality-based fashion. And the government would not have been turned over to people who hate the idea of the government interfering with their personal enrichment.

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 Post subject: Re: Trump's America
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I wasn't saying there is zero difference between Republicans/Conservatives and Democrats/Liberals. I was just saying I felt the metaphor of fast food on silver platters was broadly applicable to our politics in general because our system is so corrupt, regardless of which side you're on. That does not mean I think Rs and Ds enact the same laws or have the same values, just that they are both still beholden to the wealthy who pay them, even if they are paid to do different things.

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I feel like the maybe-actually-Left group of freshman Democrats in Congress deserve a new thread, but I can't think of a snappy title.

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Frelga wrote:
I feel like the maybe-actually-Left group of freshman Democrats in Congress deserve a new thread, but I can't think of a snappy title.


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