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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 9:45 pm 
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What a bunch of pathetic losers.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:06 am 
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Stuff like that makes me so sad Frelga.


I had read an article detailing how the town chose to handle this 'event'. The shops decided to close on Saturday so that there would be little traffic downtown but in order not to hurt businesses they had a special family night Friday (last night) in which there were late hours, specials, prayer rally, and they had sidewalk chalk and encouraged children/families to make loving signs on the sidewalk.

Why do they do this? The town doesn't want them there. What is their purpose?


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:20 am 
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Ugh. They choose a random 'preferably white' town each April to 'honor' Adolf Hitler's birthday. Those are some sick puppies. So, they consider it patriotic to honor an evil Austrian/German genocidal dictator nut job?


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:38 am 
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Apparently there were only about two dozen people, so there can't have been many more than those on stage. Which makes sense, as open admiration of Hitler is still pretty much beyond the pale in most western countries.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 5:56 am 
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What is worrying is that open racism has become more common with a little 'righteous' patriotism smeared on top. The ugliness is more open, and seemingly it is spreading beyond the US.

I recall hearing about a cross burning not too far from where I lived when I was young. I don't recall many details, but the cross was burned on the lawn of a black person and it was intended as intimidation. I cannot be sure, but I will guess that it had to do with a black person moving into what had been a 'white' neighborhood. I recall feeling unsettled and scared. I cannot imagine how the people living through it must have felt. It left quite an impression on me. I found, and still find, it puzzling that a burning cross is the symbol of choice by the KKK.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:18 am 
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Two dozen people. Whatever "open racism" might be something to comment on, keep it in perspective. It is two dozen people.

Unless the claim is that they represent a much larger group afraid to show their faces, they clearly show they are nowhere near large enough to be a threat to anyone. If they do represent a much larger group afraid to show their faces, then it isn't "open racism".

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 3:35 pm 
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I split off the discussion about 'Zero Tolerance', Family separations & other immigration issues

Clearly it deserved its own thread.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:30 pm 
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omfg. The House of Representatives has introduced a bill called the “Unmasking Antifa Act of 2018,” which carries a potential 15-year prison sentence for anyone caught engaging in behaviors typically associated with anti-fascist activists. https://t.co/IQLRzfopZD

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:49 pm 
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At an ethical level I don't see much difference between the fascists or Nazi's the alt-right or indeed the supporter of neo-liberal economics, each of these movements is entirely comfortable with the notion of individuals within their cohorts being successful by exploiting and taking advantage of other peoples weakness.

Of course the MSM don't like this point being made, because they operate according to the same principles, which is there is no such thing as right and wrong, as long as you can get away with it,

As recently as two days ago and Minister of the Crown stated that she hoped we could agree a Brexit which would allows Britain's Entrepreneurs to be Buccaneers in the global economy, well a Buccaneer is a licensed pirate, so that gives you some ideas of the ethical base on which these people operate.

In answer to the question would I punch a Nazi - my answer would be frequently and as hard as I could.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:57 pm 
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Ah yes, Antifa. Never mind that they use fascist tactics, they are completely different.

We know the Nazis weren't socialist in spite of their name because their name was complete propaganda. We know Antifa isn't fascist because "anti-fascist" is part of their name.

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