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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 8:50 pm 
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For me it is just the opposite! I dislike 3D except with the HFR, which makes it so much smoother and less headache-inducing. That having been said, I fully endorse you guys not seeing it in HFR since it is likely to just ruin the experience for you. However, I do think that to some extent the differing experiences that people have had with HFR is partly due to different quality theaters, which is why I am stoked to be seeing it in one of the highest quality theaters in the world.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 9:12 pm 
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I like this comment from the amusingly-named L. Ron Halfelven at TORN:

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In narrative terms the movie leaves a number of loose ends dangling, but on an emotional level it rounds the story off beautifully and feels right. I felt quite a bit better about the trilogy as a whole having seen it.


Would you agree with that, Tele?

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For me, 3D always looks a bit artificial, just by its very nature. So in terms of the complaints that 3D HFR doesn't "look like film", my response is, "Of course it doesn't! And neither does regular 3D!" For me, the incredible clarity of the image, the lack of stuttering during pans or tracking/swooping shots, the overall brightness -- all of this more than compensates for me occasionally spotting something "stagy" (which, frankly, happens sometimes for me even with normal movies).

Cameron is shooting the AVATAR sequels in HFR... it'll be interesting to see how another director's version of it looks.


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Question: why is "brightness" seen as a good thing? My main problem with the aesthetics of these films (apart from the HFR) is that they seem incredibly over lit. Just compare the Bag End interior scenes in FOTR to those in AUJ. The latter have light sources coming from all over the place (including the ceiling), while the former seems to generally reflect natural light sources (with all the attendant shadows). I laughed at loud when in AUJ, Gandalf said: "Let us have a little more light!" Seemed like an inside joke.


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Question: why is "brightness" seen as a good thing? My main problem with the aesthetics of these films (apart from the HFR) is that they seem incredibly over lit. Just compare the Bag End interior scenes in FOTR to those in AUJ. The latter have light sources coming from all over the place (including the ceiling), while the former seems to generally reflect natural light sources (with all the attendant shadows). I laughed at loud when in AUJ, Gandalf said: "Let us have a little more light!" Seemed like an inside joke.


Brightness because one of the huge downsides to 3D is a lot of light is lost during projection (because it has to pass through polarized glasses). I'm not refering to the brightness of the image as planned by the DP and/or director... just to the light lost during the presentation, which (if you watch a typical 3D presentation) is actually dimmer than what they want.

Generally speaking, I think PJ's always been too bright with his night scenes, even in LOTR. It's great for showing off the fantastic work that the production team did with their sets, but less dramatic than I would prefer (perfect example: Moria).


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Hey Tele, another question for you, though I think I probably know the answer. Is there any sense that Sauron is feigning being defeated so that he can withdraw to Mordor. I doubt it, but I was wondering.

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Voronwë the Faithful wrote:
Hey Tele, another question for you, though I think I probably know the answer. Is there any sense that Sauron is feigning being defeated so that he can withdraw to Mordor. I doubt it, but I was wondering.


No sense of that at all.


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My Hobbit marathon starts in six hours. I am going to see "The Battle of the Five Armies" in twelve hours. I won't publish a review today, but be sure to look out for it on Wednesday. Should I post it here or will there be a specific "Hall-of-Fire-review-thread"?

And now, I go forth and prepare for glory! :horse:


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I think this thread should suffice. I look forward to hearing your thoughts, both about BotFA specifically and the experience of seeing all three in a row.

Have fun!!!!!11

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Now that folks at TORN are actually seeing the film (at least the Europeans), comments there are suddenly much more positive than when people were just angsting over the comments that others have made.

And the consensus seems to be that Dain is not CGI (other than long shots on the pig, etc.).

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We should be hearing from Beutlin soon, no?

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An acquaintance of mine (on another board) just saw it in Germany, and (mostly) loved it. (To be fair, he also really enjoyed parts 1 and 2).


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Well, I mostly enjoyed the first two as well, particularly DoS, so hopefully I'll agree with him again.

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Voronwë the Faithful wrote:
Now that folks at TORN are actually seeing the film (at least the Europeans), comments there are suddenly much more positive than when people were just angsting over the comments that others have made.

And the consensus seems to be that Dain is not CGI (other than long shots on the pig, etc.).


And the consensus from imdb members who have watched the film claim the same thing about Dain. And even there,so far,the comments are much more positive so far which is a bit encouraging. I cannot believe i have to wait 8 days until it opens in my country :bawl:


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We'll know every detail by the time we get to see it!

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I avoid reading the detailed descriptions of specific scenes so far. I only have a general idea of what happens. I am still in the dark as far as the execution is concerned. When are you seeing it Voronwë?


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12/19 in New York. If you look down a few threads, there is one called "When will you be seeing BotFA?"

Good for you at avoiding spoilers. Not I, I'm afraid.

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Voronwë the Faithful wrote:
Now that folks at TORN are actually seeing the film (at least the Europeans), comments there are suddenly much more positive than when people were just angsting over the comments that others have made.


But holy moley are those people obsessed with Beorn.


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Some of them. I'm perfectly happy with the reports of what we are getting of Beorn in the TE, particularly since (like with DoS), we can look forward to more in the EE. From all reports, the largest focus is on Bilbo's relationship with Thorin, which pleases me very much.

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Are these the same people who wailed about him looking like Sonic the Hedgehog in the last movie?

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