TH: Desolation of Smaug Extended Edition Anticipation Thread

[Voronwë the Faithful]

ITunes, Google Play, Play Station. Someone said Amazon Prime, but I don't see it there.

[Dave_LF]

Ok. The problem I have with those options is that you are then limited to viewing the film with those companies' players, and if they haven't released versions of their players targeted at one of your devices (like, say, your internet-enabled blu-ray player), you can't watch it there. UV codes are a much better option, IMO--there are dozens of players that will stream your UV library, and odds are good there will be at least one of these available for just about any device you could come up with.

But I haven't found any way to just buy a UV code without buying a physical disc. Maybe someday.

(and I don't see it on Google anyway)

[Voronwë the Faithful]

Here's the Google Play link:

https://play.google.com/store/movies/de ... oqAI&hl=en

It is also available on xbox, apparently. But yes, UV codes are better, but only come when you buy the discs.

[Voronwë the Faithful]

really

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liked the Thrain in Dol Guldur stuff. It was both genuinely scary at first, and then touching. And horrible how swiftly he was destroyed by Sauron. The actor is very good, IMO. And I enjoyed the transition from his sword to Thorin's plunging into the ground.

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Anthony Sher is definitely very good, in a part that could be very corny. And I agree that how swiftly he was destroyed by Sauron is both horrible, and makes Gandalf's fight against Sauron that much more impressive. I do miss having Gandalf's lifting of the spell of concealment reveal Azog. But other than that, I am coming around to liking the new version.

[Dave_LF]

Here's the Google Play link:

https://play.google.com/store/movies/de ... oqAI&hl=en

It's listed there, but I don't see any way to actually buy it, just "add to wishlist". cf the unextended version, which replaces that wishlist button with "buy". But either way, I'll just wait 2 more weeks.

[Voronwë the Faithful]

Ahh.

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[yovargas]

Someone poke me when Netflix has the Blu-rays.

[Voronwë the Faithful]

TORN has a very detailed description of the new scenes, complete with dialogue and pictures. Don't go there unless you have already seen it, or want to be completely spoiled:

http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2014/10 ... ene-guide/

[Passdagas the Brown]

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I think that the omission of Dale also has to do with the scene that would have preceded it. At the overlook, Thorin says they have to hurry to get to the mountain before sundown, and then they rush off (rejecting Bilbo's plea to wait for Gandalf). To then wander around Dale for a sight-seeing and looking off into the distance tour would have seemed rather silly. So PJ may have trapped himself out of including it by the structure of his narrative. That said, I loved the additional thrush scene, which beautifully sets up his later arrival at the back door (and is just a pretty scene). IMO, when the Hobbit gets mystical, it works great. Though this has me concerned with the war-centric nature of the next movie...

[Elentári]

Evidence has surfaced on Tumblr of yet another deleted scene involving Thranduil - it seems that Legolas did in fact go after Tauriel with Thranduil's knowledge:

http://thranduilsmirkwood.tumblr.com/po ... -been-kept

And here is, in fact, the green screen version of that deleted scene, with a little something extra - quite intriguing...

[Dave_LF]

it seems that Legolas did in fact go after Tauriel with Thranduil's knowledge

Strictly speaking, in "fact" he didn't, because the scene was cut (twice); perhaps precisely because the writers decided they didn't like the effect it would have had on the story.

And it won't let me watch the video.

[Voronwë the Faithful]

Glad that they cut that one out.

[Passdagas the Brown]

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I actually like that scene between Thranduil and Legolas, especially Thranduil's recitation of the prophecy. A Tolkien moment, IMO, despite not being even remotely canon.

[Voronwë the Faithful]

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I know that Lee Pace is the cat's meow to many, but I find much of his acting horribly hammy and stilted. Plus, it would be completely redundant to have him recite the prophecy after Bard has already done so. This isn't really a spoiler, so I'm not sure we are talking in spoiler speak, but hey, its fun!

[Dave_LF]

I finally got to watch it (why in the world does Google think it contains inappropriate content?). Agreed that it comes off as redundant given Bard's lines. Maybe they filmed both with the intention of later picking one over the other. If so, I think they made the right choice. The flow of conversation also strikes me as odd and unnatural after "you have two days"--the standard "characters individually deliver cool lines into a vacuum with no concept of how it all fits together" thing--but maybe that's just because elves think on a higher level than mere mortals.

Edit: Or maybe they had some idea where Bard would recite the "happy" half of the prophecy and then later Thranduil separately would fill the audience in on the other half. Sounds like a cool idea, but possibly tricky to pull off.

Edit2: It also introduces continuity/story problems. It's not hard for the elves to deduce what Thorin is about, but they (excepting Elrond) don't know anything about the secret door or Durin's Day's connection to the quest, so why would they be saying these things?

[Voronwë the Faithful]

I finally got to watch it (why in the world does Google think it contains inappropriate content?).

With all the drooling "Thranduil appreciation" threads "elsewhere," maybe they thought it was porn.

[Primula Baggins]

I really don't get the Thranduil swooning. He's pretty, but I think men who don't iron and shellack their hair are much more attractive.

[Frelga]

Someone on TORC said that he looked like the child of Lucius Malfoy and Leonid Brezhnev, and ever since I am unable to keep a straight face when I see him.

[Voronwë the Faithful]

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One of the complaints that I have seen repeatedly about the Thrain scenes is they make his death "comical" by allegedly using the "Wilhelm scream". I don't get that at all. Of course, I wouldn't recognize a "Wilhelm scream" if it bit me on the ass, but I thought his death was well done, and the scream perfectly appropriate. Any thoughts from those who have scene it and are more of a film aficionado than I am?

[Passdagas the Brown]

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Yeah, the Wilhelm scream was most famously utilized by George Lucas in the original Star Wars trilogy, and it has since made its way into a number of light films. PJ loves that sort of campy movie history tradition thing, and fits the scream in there a lot. Though somehow, I didn't catch it with Thrain. I was too wrapped up in the horror of Sauron destroying him in an instant, like an insignificant bug.

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By the way, V-man, isn't it time you recognized that I was absolutely right about Thrain being possessed?