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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:37 pm 
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Hard to believe its been fifteen years since Fellowship opened. I remember getting tickets to the Irish Premiere and the shiver of excitement that came with those opening lines of Elvish "I amar prestar aen, han mathon ne nen, han mathon ne chae, a han noston ned 'wilith". Still to my mind the best Middle-earth movie. I didn't like Nuclear Galadriel, and I wasn't as impressed with the Balrog as everyone else, but apart from that it was practically perfect for me. Of course, multiple viewings have changed some things, I don't actually think I've watched the Theatrical cut since the EE came out, and of course I've watched several Fanedits, but nothing touches that first, almost religious, experience. I think I might watch it again this year with the kids. Just Fellowship. And next year, The Two Towers. Maybe in October I'll watch the Extended Edition. :)

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I was one who on first viewing was kinda like "uhhh....I guess that was pretty good.....right?" And then I watched it again. And again. And again. And again. And again. Until I lost count of how many times I'd seen it (at least 8 in theaters; possibly 30+ at home) and it had become, easily, the movie I've watched the most. Safe to say I came around to thinking it was more than pretty good. :)

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I'm not sure that I would agree that to me Fellowship is clearly the best Middle-earth film. Like all six of them, there is much that I love unequivocally about it, but also much that I dislike about it. But I can absolutely say without any hesitation that the first time I saw it in the theater was the most incredible cinematic experience that I have ever had, and I can say with almost as much certainty that it will remain so. Unlike all of the following films, I had no idea what to expect. I had not closely followed the pre-production; all I knew is that a new attempt was being made to film a piece of literature that had had already had a tremendously profound influence on my life, by a (to me) completely unknown director, and that they were making three films. To say that my expectations were low would not be accurate; they were non-existent. And then, that voice, those words, those initial images, and some of the most powerful portions of the first part of the book brought to absolute life. I was so overwhelming by what was so overwhelmingly good that I didn't even notice the things that later I would come to consider flaws. Nothing has ever remotely come close to that experience since, and I surely doubt that anything will.

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Funnily enough, the closest experience I've had to that was at Rogue One last night. It just felt so right.

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And who remembers downloading these in Quicktime, or Realplayer...





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Oh it's been that long.

Well I haven't watched them in a long time. Skipped the Hobbit ones too. I don't really think about them anymore. Time heals all wounds?

Besides, the new Star Wars sequel, which disappointed me so much, put Jackson and company's jolly changes in perspective. Make Denethor a crazy comet, puff up the Hobbit, I don't care anymore. Star Wars has it worse. There's always something worse. Everyone loved it like crazy too, but they did for PJ's LOTR and Hobbit, so I'm used to it now. Used to disappointment and feeling left out.

At least the movies got me to devour all the books I could get my hands on and led me to this community, here and on TORC.

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I'm sorry you've been disappointed, Anduril. :(

I loved Rogue One!!!!!!!!!!! I am very far from being a hardcore SW fan. But I saw it twice. Loved it.

Al, I can't count the number of times I watched each and every one of those trailers, and then shared the excitement online. The early days, and the high days, of the LotR film fandom was truly a Golden Age of the internet. :love:

Voronwë the Faithful wrote:
... But I can absolutely say without any hesitation that the first time I saw it in the theater was the most incredible cinematic experience that I have ever had, and I can say with almost as much certainty that it will remain so ... Nothing has ever remotely come close to that experience since, and I surely doubt that anything will.


Yep. :love:

Like you, there is much I love, and much that drives me bonkers, about all of PJ's filmic excusions into Middle-earth. But nothing has ever come close to the cinematic experience that seeing FotR for the first time was. So incredibly immersive and spellbinding, and yes, a dream come true.

I watched FotR again on UK TV recently - the theatrical version, complete with hilariously inappropriate advert breaks. I hadn't seen it for YEARS and it really has stood the test of time very well indeed. :) A splendid fantasy film, and a very good adaptation of Tolkien (with quibbles here and there, of course!)

I'm struck by how good the exposition is. The Harry Potter films, much as I love them, are made VERY much for the fans. If you don't know the books, I can't see how much sense the films would make, especially the later ones. Whereas PJ made his LotR very much for non-fans as well as fans. And that was important.

My biggest beef will always be Frodo's characterisation. Elijah's Frodo is charming and spiritual. But he doesn't begin to compare with Movie Bilbo's heroism. Alas. (Martin and Sir Ian are both SO GOOD as Bilbo.)

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