The Tolkien Translation Game!

A forum for games, puzzles and sports-related discussions.
Post Reply
User avatar
Voronwë the Faithful
At the intersection of here and now
Posts: 45926
Joined: Mon Nov 21, 2005 1:41 am
Contact:

Re: The Tolkien Translation Game!

Post by Voronwë the Faithful »

What I would do is say, "yes it is from The Silmarillion." In Tolkien scholarship, the common practice is to distinguish between "the Silmarillion" which could refer to any of the body work that comprises the first age tales, and The Silmarillion which specifically refers to the published book. If you wanted to give more of a hint, you could say yes, but it is not in the Quenta Silmarillion, which would narrow it down the other four shorter works in the published book.

But that's just my opinion!
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
User avatar
Primula Baggins
Living in hope
Posts: 40005
Joined: Mon Nov 21, 2005 1:43 am
Location: Sailing the luminiferous aether
Contact:

Re: The Tolkien Translation Game!

Post by Primula Baggins »

From a mere published Tolkien scholar. I would take it. :D
“There, peeping among the cloud-wrack above a dark tor high up in the mountains, Sam saw a white star twinkle for a while. The beauty of it smote his heart, as he looked up out of the forsaken land, and hope returned to him. For like a shaft, clear and cold, the thought pierced him that in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach.”
― J.R.R. Tolkien, The Return of the King
User avatar
Jude
Lán de Grás
Posts: 8166
Joined: Sat Jan 21, 2006 4:54 pm

Re: The Tolkien Translation Game!

Post by Jude »

Okay, I'll follow those guidelines.

Just to bring it to the new page:

Final version:
It is all of you?
Earlier version:
Do it-do you all have?
A further hint: Aragorn wasn't present when this quote was spoken, but the quote does show him being wrong about something.
Image
User avatar
Inanna
Meetu's little sister
Posts: 17680
Joined: Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:03 pm

Re: The Tolkien Translation Game!

Post by Inanna »

What was he wrong about?
'You just said "your getting shorter": you've obviously been drinking too much ent-draught and not enough Prim's.' - Jude
User avatar
Jude
Lán de Grás
Posts: 8166
Joined: Sat Jan 21, 2006 4:54 pm

Re: The Tolkien Translation Game!

Post by Jude »

One of the guesses he made when piecing together what happened to Merry and Pippin.
Image
User avatar
Jude
Lán de Grás
Posts: 8166
Joined: Sat Jan 21, 2006 4:54 pm

Re: The Tolkien Translation Game!

Post by Jude »

I think you have enough clues to know which section to search, but if you need any more hints, just ask...
Image
User avatar
Inanna
Meetu's little sister
Posts: 17680
Joined: Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:03 pm

Re: The Tolkien Translation Game!

Post by Inanna »

I'm lost. I figured that the thing Aragorn was wrong about was the hobbits being carried away by Orcs through Fangorn to Saruman?
'You just said "your getting shorter": you've obviously been drinking too much ent-draught and not enough Prim's.' - Jude
User avatar
Jude
Lán de Grás
Posts: 8166
Joined: Sat Jan 21, 2006 4:54 pm

Re: The Tolkien Translation Game!

Post by Jude »

He made a number of guesses about what happened; by this time he had already guessed that at least one of them, and perhaps both, had escaped.

But remember that the actual quote is spoken much before we see Aragorn making his guesses.
Image
User avatar
Inanna
Meetu's little sister
Posts: 17680
Joined: Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:03 pm

Re: The Tolkien Translation Game!

Post by Inanna »

Oh! I thought after.... so on Amon Hen?
'You just said "your getting shorter": you've obviously been drinking too much ent-draught and not enough Prim's.' - Jude
User avatar
Jude
Lán de Grás
Posts: 8166
Joined: Sat Jan 21, 2006 4:54 pm

Re: The Tolkien Translation Game!

Post by Jude »

After Amon Hen.
Image
User avatar
Inanna
Meetu's little sister
Posts: 17680
Joined: Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:03 pm

Re: The Tolkien Translation Game!

Post by Inanna »

So, one of the orcs?
'You just said "your getting shorter": you've obviously been drinking too much ent-draught and not enough Prim's.' - Jude
User avatar
Jude
Lán de Grás
Posts: 8166
Joined: Sat Jan 21, 2006 4:54 pm

Re: The Tolkien Translation Game!

Post by Jude »

Yes!
Image
User avatar
Jude
Lán de Grás
Posts: 8166
Joined: Sat Jan 21, 2006 4:54 pm

Re: The Tolkien Translation Game!

Post by Jude »

So - is another hint needed?
Image
User avatar
Inanna
Meetu's little sister
Posts: 17680
Joined: Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:03 pm

Re: The Tolkien Translation Game!

Post by Inanna »

Is it Grishnakh or Ugluk?
'You just said "your getting shorter": you've obviously been drinking too much ent-draught and not enough Prim's.' - Jude
User avatar
Jude
Lán de Grás
Posts: 8166
Joined: Sat Jan 21, 2006 4:54 pm

Re: The Tolkien Translation Game!

Post by Jude »

Grishnákh.

Admins - another word for your magic word-replacer!
Image
User avatar
Inanna
Meetu's little sister
Posts: 17680
Joined: Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:03 pm

Re: The Tolkien Translation Game!

Post by Inanna »

To the Hobbits?
'You just said "your getting shorter": you've obviously been drinking too much ent-draught and not enough Prim's.' - Jude
User avatar
Jude
Lán de Grás
Posts: 8166
Joined: Sat Jan 21, 2006 4:54 pm

Re: The Tolkien Translation Game!

Post by Jude »

Yes
Image
User avatar
Inanna
Meetu's little sister
Posts: 17680
Joined: Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:03 pm

Re: The Tolkien Translation Game!

Post by Inanna »

A guess:

"I don't need the help of your legs to get you away - and have you all to myself!"
'You just said "your getting shorter": you've obviously been drinking too much ent-draught and not enough Prim's.' - Jude
User avatar
Jude
Lán de Grás
Posts: 8166
Joined: Sat Jan 21, 2006 4:54 pm

Re: The Tolkien Translation Game!

Post by Jude »

No, but I think you're close...
Image
User avatar
Inanna
Meetu's little sister
Posts: 17680
Joined: Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:03 pm

Re: The Tolkien Translation Game!

Post by Inanna »

Have you got it-either of you?
'You just said "your getting shorter": you've obviously been drinking too much ent-draught and not enough Prim's.' - Jude
Post Reply