A different one. It actually didn't change that much.
ETA: I should note that I removed a "he said" from the middle of the quote so that the two parts of the sentence were combined in one.
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"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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Do we need a hint?
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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Just to bring it to the new page:
Is the meaning of the original similar? The first thing I thought of was Bilbo under the mountain getting closer to Smaug and remarking about it."'Ah! This fragrance! It's getting stronger."
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Yes, the meaning of the original is very similar. The original quote is considerably later in time than your thought, but it is said by the same type of being.
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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Aha, then it must be Shelob's Lair:
Sam wrote:Ugh! That smell! It's getting stronger and stronger!
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Yup, that's it! Well done!
I'll be curious to see how funnytranslator.com works for you, if you chose to try it. I found it a definite mixed bag, but better than trying to do it manually.
I'll be curious to see how funnytranslator.com works for you, if you chose to try it. I found it a definite mixed bag, but better than trying to do it manually.
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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FunnyTranslator looks promising, but both the quotes I tried were too long for it.
So I used google translate and ran this through French, Russian, and Japanese, and ended up with:
So I used google translate and ran this through French, Russian, and Japanese, and ended up with:
And when you walk around thinking that you destroyed your own house when you destroyed mine, it's kinda handy.
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Oh, I know that one. It's Saruman telling Frodo that he's messing up the Shire as Frodo did to Isengard.
If there was anything that depressed him more than his own cynicism, it was that quite often it still wasn't as cynical as real life.
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Jude wrote:
The dumbest thing I've ever bought
was a 2020 planner.
"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
was a 2020 planner.
"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
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Oh, you mean a vague guess is not enough? I'll go look for the books. After the meetings.
If there was anything that depressed him more than his own cynicism, it was that quite often it still wasn't as cynical as real life.
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Honestly I've been reading these two pages over and over and that's the closest but it still doesn't seem to be quite right. Or else those translations *really* did a number on it.Frelga wrote:Saruman's home could be all wrecked, and he could be turned out, but no one could touch yours.
The dumbest thing I've ever bought
was a 2020 planner.
"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
was a 2020 planner.
"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
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That's not the right quote.
(and why have you attributed it to Frelga?)
(and why have you attributed it to Frelga?)
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Just in case it was right? lolJude wrote:That's not the right quote.
(and why have you attributed it to Frelga?)
Is it earlier then? With Sam speaking?
The dumbest thing I've ever bought
was a 2020 planner.
"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
was a 2020 planner.
"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
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"It comes home to you, as they say; because it is home, and you remember it before it was all ruined."
Is that the one? I thought of this one but Sam says it rather than Saruman.
Is that the one? I thought of this one but Sam says it rather than Saruman.
The dumbest thing I've ever bought
was a 2020 planner.
"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
was a 2020 planner.
"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
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This?And it will afford me some comfort as I wander to think that you pulled down your own house when you destroyed mine.
If there was anything that depressed him more than his own cynicism, it was that quite often it still wasn't as cynical as real life.
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What chapter is that from?
The dumbest thing I've ever bought
was a 2020 planner.
"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
was a 2020 planner.
"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF