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No - earlier than that.
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Oh, to Gandalf?
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Yup!
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Er. In case anyone is waiting for me to reply, please don't, for of clues I have none.
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I think you've narrowed it down to one of two conversations...
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And if I had half an hour to spend with the book, I would undoubtedly have found it. :D

Alas.
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'But I begin to wish, somehow, that I had gone too. I wonder if I shall ever see him again.’

ETA: In the earlier of the two conversations that you reference (although actually there was another brief conversation between Frodo and Gandalf even earlier than that), just before Gandalf goes off to discover the truth about the Ring.
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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That's the one!
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I'll come up with a new one when I get a chance.
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Bilbo to Gollum during the riddle game?
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ROFL
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:bow:
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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Who is that wretched man?
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Spoken In the Golden Hall?
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Wrong book. (And it is not the Silmarillion.)
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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A couple of hints. There is a change from plural (in the original) to singular (in the translation). And the adjective is a synonym.
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Does "men" refer to the race of men?
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No. And the plural word used in the original quote is not "men".
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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Miserable Hobbits by any chance?
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