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Jude wrote:Spoken during the First Age?
Yas.
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I feel like I remember this quote from my last reading of the Silmarillion, too long ago. Does it refer indirectly to Eärendil?
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I believe so, yes. Indirectly in that there is no Eärendil to refer to yet.
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Is it related to the likelihood of some stronghold falling? To Morgoth, I mean.
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Inanna wrote:Is it related to the likelihood of some stronghold falling? To Morgoth, I mean.
That is certainly the context, yes.
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Aren’t you on the west coast? You’re awake!
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Inanna wrote:Aren’t you on the west coast? You’re awake!
The cats got me up early, but this is about the time I'd be up anyway in winter.
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Beleriand?
Doriath?
Gondolin?
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No
No
Yes
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(I might have to backtrack slightly, the quote does not directly happen relative to the fall of Gondolin, but it is referenced in the surrounding text)
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Is it this one?

"remember that the true hope of the Noldor lieth in the West, and cometh from the Sea"? Its a bit of a stretch
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No. That comes later.
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:poke:
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"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
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Huor to Turgon: "Yet if it stands but a little while, then out of your house shall come the hope of Elves and Men."
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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That's the one!
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This one never reached equilibrium, but this was where it was at when TranslationParty gave up.

Is all sad things not true?
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Did you just change it?
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Is that Sam when he saw that Gandalf was alive?

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Inanna wrote:Did you just change it?
I think he did!
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Yes I did, because I decided that that quote was too perfect for the time not to use.

Jude, that is part of the correct quote; I also used the next sentence, which appears to have been completely eliminated in the translation for some reason.

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