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Most of them, verbatim or synonyms.
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The closest thing I can think of is Frodo at the end of the Scouring about the last stroke of the War happening at Bag End: 'Among all my hopes and fears at least I never expected that.’


But you said it wasn't Frodo, so that probably isn't it!
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It's not.
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Is it about Gandalf?
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No, Gandalf is not involved
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Are we correct to be looking in LOTR?
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Yes.
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Does it concern Gimli and Legolas?
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Inanna wrote:Does it concern Gimli and Legolas?
They are both present but the words are not spoken by, to, or about either of them.
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Is it said by or to Aragorn by one of the Rohirrim?
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By Aragorn. The Rohirrim are present but they are not a part of the conversation at the moment.
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Is it said to Merry or Pippin? Or both of them?

(And is Gandalf not only "not involved" but also not present?
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Not to Merry or Pippin. Gandalf is not present.
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Okay. Aragorn to Halbarad: "Of all joys this is the least expected!"
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That's it.
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Even if we are all of us, that is not easy
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Was this spoken during the Council of Elrond?
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No, later.

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After Moria?
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No, before.

Which narrows it down pretty nicely!
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