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Or legolas in Lothlórien?
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Is it part of a poem or song?
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Inanna wrote:So, Aragorn?
Yes
Jude wrote:Is it part of a poem or song?
Yes
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From The tale of Tinúviel?
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Inanna wrote:From The tale of Tinúviel?
*I have been corrected, the answer is yes
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That actually is exactly the name that it is given by the singer.
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Voronwë the Faithful wrote:That actually is exactly the name that it is given by the singer.
Ach, quite right, quite right! I am sorry, for some reason I had it in my head that it was something else.
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And I apologize for sounding (as I now see) like a know-it-all!
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Voronwë the Faithful wrote:And I apologize for sounding (as I now see) like a know-it-all!
:hug: :kiss: I didn't think that.
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:hug:
"Spirits in the shape of hawks and eagles flew ever to and from his halls; and their eyes could see to the depths of the seas, and pierce the hidden caverns beneath the world."
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No worries, Elengil. I also think of it as "Beren and Lúthien", but wanted to be exact, given its a puzzle..

Is this the one:

He sought her ever, wandering far
Where leaves of years were thickly strewn,
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Inanna wrote:No worries, Elengil. I also think of it as "Beren and Lúthien", but wanted to be exact, given its a puzzle..

Is this the one:

He sought her ever, wandering far
Where leaves of years were thickly strewn,
That's the one!

And having even just read it, I was still so sure it was the Tale of Lúthien LOL
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The Lord of Wisdom immediately sat and angry and laughed at him.
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Is "Lord of Wisdom" an accurate translation of the original?
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Is it from Frodo's song remembering Gandalf (when he thought Gandalf had fallen in Moria)?

"A lord of wisdom throned he sat,
swift in anger, quick to laugh"
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Yes. Your turn.
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Here's the new one.

"You choose, for now I'm tired of the world."
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Was it spoken by Fëanor's mother?
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That is a very good guess, and would be even a better guess if the published Silmarillion included all of Finwë and Míriel's sad story (or if we included in this game material only published in HoMe).

I will say that it was said by (but not to) someone who was a descendent of Finwë's (though not of Míriel's).
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I skimmed through the sections with Maeglin and Aredhel, and didn't spot it. Should I be looking elsewhere?
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