I am leaning more towards Silmarilion as a source, maybe?Inanna wrote:I don’t recall *Anything* related to ravens in LOTR...
The Tolkien Translation Game!
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The dumbest thing I've ever bought
was a 2020 planner.
"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
was a 2020 planner.
"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
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Yes, must be.
'You just said "your getting shorter": you've obviously been drinking too much ent-draught and not enough Prim's.' - Jude
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Just to bring it to the new page:
Alatar wrote: There is one thing that hasn't been said. We are timid and suffer from ravens and raven fears
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... wait wait... I think Alatar may be being a tad sneaky. Is this another Fëanor quote??
Ha! yes!
"...but one thing is not said: that we shall suffer from cowardice, from cravens or the fear of cravens." - Fëanor indeed.
Ha! yes!
"...but one thing is not said: that we shall suffer from cowardice, from cravens or the fear of cravens." - Fëanor indeed.
The dumbest thing I've ever bought
was a 2020 planner.
"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
was a 2020 planner.
"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
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I'll leave y'all to guess just how accurate this translation isThe forest will be a little better. I hope North Korea will be free from that fear for many years. But I hope he was banished from the world!
The dumbest thing I've ever bought
was a 2020 planner.
"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
was a 2020 planner.
"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
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Is that Gandalf about the Necromancer?
If so, it raises some interesting questions about Kim Jong-un.
If so, it raises some interesting questions about Kim Jong-un.
If there was anything that depressed him more than his own cynicism, it was that quite often it still wasn't as cynical as real life.
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It is. And it certainly does!Frelga wrote:Is that Gandalf about the Necromancer?
If so, it raises some interesting questions about Kim Jong-un.
The dumbest thing I've ever bought
was a 2020 planner.
"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
was a 2020 planner.
"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
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Wrt the Ravens quote. Someone asked if Ravens was in the original.
Sort of.... as in you can see how Translation Party got there.
Sort of.... as in you can see how Translation Party got there.
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I'm disappointed that it wasn't translated as seagulls. C-Ravens.Alatar wrote:Wrt the Ravens quote. Someone asked if Ravens was in the original.
Sort of.... as in you can see how Translation Party got there.
If there was anything that depressed him more than his own cynicism, it was that quite often it still wasn't as cynical as real life.
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*giggle*Frelga wrote:I'm disappointed that it wasn't translated as seagulls. C-Ravens.Alatar wrote:Wrt the Ravens quote. Someone asked if Ravens was in the original.
Sort of.... as in you can see how Translation Party got there.
The dumbest thing I've ever bought
was a 2020 planner.
"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
was a 2020 planner.
"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
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"The Forest will grow somewhat more wholesome. The North will be freed from that horror for many long years, I hope. Yet I wish he were banished from the world."elengil wrote:I'll leave y'all to guess just how accurate this translation isThe forest will be a little better. I hope North Korea will be free from that fear for many years. But I hope he was banished from the world!
If there was anything that depressed him more than his own cynicism, it was that quite often it still wasn't as cynical as real life.
Terry Pratchett, Guards! Guards!
Terry Pratchett, Guards! Guards!
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Frelga wrote:"The Forest will grow somewhat more wholesome. The North will be freed from that horror for many long years, I hope. Yet I wish he were banished from the world."elengil wrote:I'll leave y'all to guess just how accurate this translation isThe forest will be a little better. I hope North Korea will be free from that fear for many years. But I hope he was banished from the world!
That's it, you're up!
I have *no* ideaJude wrote:Wow, how did Korea get stuck into that phrase?
The dumbest thing I've ever bought
was a 2020 planner.
"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
was a 2020 planner.
"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
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But I have to go because no one lives to help me.
If there was anything that depressed him more than his own cynicism, it was that quite often it still wasn't as cynical as real life.
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I'm thinking either Frodo at the breaking of the Fellowship. or Gandalf being summoned by Pippin to save Faramir?
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No to both, and none of the characters mentioned are involved.
If there was anything that depressed him more than his own cynicism, it was that quite often it still wasn't as cynical as real life.
Terry Pratchett, Guards! Guards!
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Darn, I was gonna guess Gandalf at the Bridge of Khazâd Dum.Frelga wrote:No to both, and none of the characters mentioned are involved.
The dumbest thing I've ever bought
was a 2020 planner.
"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
was a 2020 planner.
"Does anyone ever think about Denethor, the guy driven to madness by staying up late into the night alone in the dark staring at a flickering device he believed revealed unvarnished truth about the outside word, but which in fact showed mostly manipulated media created by a hostile power committed to portraying nothing but bad news framed in the worst possible way in order to sap hope, courage, and the will to go on? Seems like he's someone we should think about." - Dave_LF
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Actually, let me rephrase that. None of the characters *named* are involved.
If there was anything that depressed him more than his own cynicism, it was that quite often it still wasn't as cynical as real life.
Terry Pratchett, Guards! Guards!
Terry Pratchett, Guards! Guards!