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Actually I was talking about two quotes back :)
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Here's the quote again, since we are on a new page.
Voronwë the Faithful wrote:As I said before, the original is the last two sentences of a longer speech, the last one of which I have quoted or paraphrased often. It changed a lot, but interesting the sense didn't change that much.

If necessary it is. There is peace of mind.
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Hopefully someone will find my hints to be encouraging.
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Bilbo was meant to find the ring?
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You're in the right territory, but what the full quote?
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Nothing seems to be a good fit. Maybe this one?

"so do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us."
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No, you were closer before! The correct quote is right after the one you referenced.
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Sorry, I must be obtuse. I can't find anything close.
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You literally were one sentence away before. I still find that to be an encouraging thought.
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In which case you also were meant to have it?
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And the next sentence as well. Well done!
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Wow. I never would have got that.
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But you did! Though with some hints. As I said initially, while the words changed a lot, the sense really didn't change that much. "you were also meant to have it" became "Yoda-ized to "if necessary it is." And "that may be an encouraging thought" became "there is piece of mind." Pretty much the same meaning; completely different words. Fun!

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This was quite a long quote and Translation Party kept crashing, so I split it in half and stitched the two translations back together.
All the protected Valley sides of green mountain forest and lush and comfortable, a day shall come whereon the quaking will quake
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Alatar wrote:a day shall come whereon the quaking will quake
That's the reality we live with here in California!
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And Oregon.
“There, peeping among the cloud-wrack above a dark tor high up in the mountains, Sam saw a white star twinkle for a while. The beauty of it smote his heart, as he looked up out of the forsaken land, and hope returned to him. For like a shaft, clear and cold, the thought pierced him that in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach.”
― J.R.R. Tolkien, The Return of the King
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Hint needed?
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Probably!
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This should narrow it down dramatically. Spoken by a Dwarf.
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LOTR?
If there was anything that depressed him more than his own cynicism, it was that quite often it still wasn't as cynical as real life.

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