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:(

There are very few things you can count on always happening. On the negative side, there is death and taxes. On the positive side, there is Jon Stewart hosting the Daily Show.
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What happened? :shock:
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I just got back from visiting my dad and this was what I was greeted with when I got home!

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/11/arts/ ... .html?_r=0

He announced today that he's retiring from the Daily Show later this year. I am not sure what we're going to do without BOTH Colbert (the in-character version) AND Stewart. :(
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It is very odd that there doesn't seem to be any information about why he is leaving, what he is going to do next, or who is going to host the Daily Show (if it even continues). I just hope it isn't that he is ill or something like that.
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I love John and am sad to hear that he's leaving but I've been feeling for some time now that his heart didn't seem to be 100% in it anymore. I'm not surprised to hear he'll be moving on.
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He said he was growing restless. Not difficult to understand that one would want to do something else for a while! I typically get tired of a job after 3-4 years, so...
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Didn't he say in his on-air announcement that the longest he'd stayed in a job before this one was seven months?
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Yup!
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Maybe we can petition him to stay as a public service.


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Has he announced his presidential candidacy yet?

That's the only thing that would reconcile me with his leaving the show.
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Does anybody know anything about his replacement, Trevor Noah?
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I think that announcement might as well have been made to a barnfull of owls.

Everyone went, "Who?"
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No clue about him at all. Other than some of his tweets are coming under scrutiny now.

I don't even feel like seeing him on THAT DESK.

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I hear he's made some appearances on the show over thw past few weeks but I haven't caught them. Those are seven-league boots he's gonna have to fill! Brave man.
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I've seen two of his three TDS appearances. I would classify my reaction is middling-positive. I don't much like the tweets that I saw reported, but I'm not prepared to reject him entirely over that.
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I saw one appearance and liked it. But his tweets are scabrous and viciously sexist.
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Scabrous? That's a new one for me. Had to google it.

I agree. They are also grossly anti-Semitic. However, as one article that I read pointed out, if twitter had existed back when Jon Stewart "was a snappy, smoking, leather jacket-wearing comic in the '90s, he might have had some regrettable moments, too." That doesn't make it right, of course, but comedians try to push the limit, often in ways that are inappropriate. I think he will either grow into the role, or quickly fade away.
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The person who was retweeting the ones I saw was apparently focusing on the sexist ones. Some of them were tweeted just a couple of years ago. And gross anti-Semitism, too? If this is a comedian-culture thing, it leaves me pretty cold. :|
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I haven't seen that stuff but - is it possible some of the comments are parody or somesuch? Certainly there are plenty of quotes from Stewart's own material that could be taken out of context as sexist, anti-Semitic, or most any form of bigotry but usually within the context of the show it was clear he was mocking such views.
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I don't know the guy, and I am generally not a fan of comedians using phrases "pushing boundaries" and "irreverent" as code for a "raging jackass" but I looked up one article about those tweets, and I thought they were funny. Yeah, even the one about a Jewish kid and the German car.

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