Winter is Coming: A Game of Thrones (SPOILERS)

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Wow, that's dedication Nin. ;)
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I'm through with book one... watching time now.
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I have never read the book but at some book-fan-friends insistence I got caught up with them this weekend up through to the newest episode. I am largely enjoying it so far but I would definitely say I simply don't think I would've been able to follow what was going on if I couldn't ask my friends to pause and periodically explain. They're making a valiant effort at info-dumping everything we need to know in this hugely complicated world without bogging down the story but I think for the most part it's way too much to figure out on your own. Still, it's been quite fun so far. (Though I was hoping for more male nudity than we've been getting. :P)
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I've finished book 1 and have book 2 waiting. I am still really enjoying it.
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I started reading this about a year ago, and stalled in Book 1. Not because it was shocking...actually I can't remember why I ran out of steam. When I heard that this was in the wind I started reading again - I've now just started Part 1 of Book 3. Not Tolkien, no, but definitely a good yarn.

It does read violently. This not surprising given that there are lots of swords/spears/tourneys/battles + other sharp, pointy, hurty things. I'm not great seeing the product of swordplay on screen, it's very much a between-the-fingers kind of viewing.

I'd still like to see this on screen, but it's not on-air in Australia yet, and we don't have pay tv anyway. I'll wait patiently for the DVD, and in the meantime read all of your reviews. :)

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Hi Samaranth! Missed you and you forget-me-nots. :)
I do't have HBO either, but might see if I can sign up for a month, once the series is done, and watch the whole thing thru. Then cancel. I'm not much of a TV watcher. I go months without deliberately turning mine on.
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Netflix might be a better value and let you do the same thing on DVD.
“There, peeping among the cloud-wrack above a dark tor high up in the mountains, Sam saw a white star twinkle for a while. The beauty of it smote his heart, as he looked up out of the forsaken land, and hope returned to him. For like a shaft, clear and cold, the thought pierced him that in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach.”
― J.R.R. Tolkien, The Return of the King
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Heh, I love you people. I just discovered this thread and went through the sequence. Saw the HBO previews, got intrigued, ordered book 1, read it, and now am watching the series on HBO.

:D

So I finished watching episode 7 early via HBOGO. I thought the first episode was amazing. Really, really great. Wonderful job at pulling me in. I've been a little back and forth on the rest of it since then, but part of that is the subject matter. It is an uncomfortable book in parts because what happens is pretty awful in some parts.

I'm loving the character of the dwarf (Peter Dinklage). He adds the right touch of humor and wryness and observation of the world. I think they captured Ned Stark's stubborn honor and applying the wrong fixes to the actual world that he lives in. :) Unlike Tolkien, where honor is noble and always prevails, here, the world is not black and white, or, you need to do wrong things sometimes to get the right thing done. But what is the right thing? There is just the flow of events and the trick is getting on the right side. Certainly a lot of interesting ideas and nothing like Tolkien's world. :)

My husband is also watching with me, he's not into sci/fi fantasy and I have to frequently explain what is going on and who is who, but the titillation quotient is getting him interested. ;) Frankly I could do without the sex scenes, they are pretty frequent and I find it distracting from the story. A couple of them were particularly icky!
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The last episode was awesome. Loved it - except for what was arguably the single dumbest, silliest, awkwardest scene in television history. To those watching, can you guess which scene I mean? :D
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I've requested the book from the library, but I'm 22nd in the queue. So it will be a while! (I guess I could request it from the two other library systems in the area and see which one gets to me first.)
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Hey Lali, I have at least one extra copy (maybe two, can't remember what I've given away to who). PM me your address and I'll mail it to ya. You don't need to worry about returning it...bombarding me with copies of GoT is an inside joke my brother and I share and I'm sure I'll get a replacement. :smilespin:
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Hey! That would be so awesome! Yay! :happydance: PM on the way and thanks!

(That sounds like a funny inside joke.)
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yovargas wrote:The last episode was awesome. Loved it - except for what was arguably the single dumbest, silliest, awkwardest scene in television history. To those watching, can you guess which scene I mean? :D
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I can. The scene where Lord Baelish tutored the two er, ladies of the evening in how to convince customers they were really "into it" while talking about the love of his life, Cate.

I'm having a problem thinking that Lord Baelish can have a "thing" for Cate in the series. The actors don't have that kind of chemistry. It kind of worked in the book, but it's not working for me on the screen.
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I'm sorry Drogo is going to go. I like the actor that's playing him. He's very good at the role, which is impressive because he either doesn't speak or speaks the Dothraki language in the series, so we have no words to rely on!
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Ellienor wrote:I can. The scene where Lord Baelish tutored the two er, ladies of the evening in how to convince customers they were really "into it" while talking about the love of his life, Cate.
Bingo. Me and my friends laughed and laughed and laughed and laughed at how duuuuuuumb that scene was.
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I can't see Baelish as portrayed in the book actually coaching his whores. :scratch: That sounds like something he'd pay someone else to do while scheming elsewhere. But maybe the TV version is different - I don't have HBO or cable TV and I'm not about to get it. GRRM was involved in the script-writing so if Littlefinger's changed up a bit from the text we at least have the comfort of knowing his creator signed off on the changes.

Ellie, it was a bummer when he bit it in the book. Actually, "bummer" is the wrong word. Utterly hair-raising would be more accurate...and the final transformation of Dany is just stunning. It'll look great on screen when it happens, I'm sure.
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River wrote:I can't see Baelish as portrayed in the book actually coaching his whores. :scratch: That sounds like something he'd pay someone else to do while scheming elsewhere. But maybe the TV version is different.
Not really. It was one of several reasons why the scene was soooooooooooo stupid.
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Yes, that scene came across as pretty dumb. Although, after observing a hetero male watching the scene (i.e., my husband), I can say that he had NO problem with how dumb the scene was. For him, the scene totally rocked. ;)
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River, the one thing that I remember as the shocker in the first book was finding out that the head commander at the Wall was actually Aeron Targaryen and he had obeyed his vow when his family was deposed and his younger kin Danaeris and her brother fled, and done nothing. That reveal in the book just floored me for some reason!
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Finally. Geeks are getting some love.
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That's never been a problem around here, SirDennis. :D
“There, peeping among the cloud-wrack above a dark tor high up in the mountains, Sam saw a white star twinkle for a while. The beauty of it smote his heart, as he looked up out of the forsaken land, and hope returned to him. For like a shaft, clear and cold, the thought pierced him that in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach.”
― J.R.R. Tolkien, The Return of the King
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