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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:37 pm 
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Huh. Can't say I've ever seen "genius" as a defining trait of the Joker. Was Jack Nicholson's Joker a genius? My favorite Joker is the version from the beloved Batman The Animated Series (fantastically played by Mark Hamill) and while he was clever and wily, I can't say I ever thought of him as a genius. In my mind he was never dangerous because he's the smartest guy around but because he's so chaotic and unpredictable.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:40 pm 
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In case you think I’m just a grumpy old man who can’t stand change, I really didn’t think Heath Ledger would be a credible Joker and he completely won me over. He had cunning and guile behind the madness. Nicholson’s Joker was really only a step up from Cesar Romero. As you say, the Animated Joker player by Hamill is the definitive version, but he also shows guile and cunning that I can’t see in Joaquins version.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:46 pm 
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One of my few criticisms of Nolan’s Joker was that he was too clever, in that pulling of some of his schemes would needed omniscience straining credibility (I’m hard to satisfy, I know :p). I’m not familiar with any of the others, save Burton/Nicholson’s.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 2:10 am 
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So, Terminator Dark Fate was fun. I know the critics hated it, and it may not be a classic but it felt like a return to form and a fitting finale to the Sarah Connors trilogy. A bit predictable in places, but it had the right amount of heart without being schmaltzy, and some nice humorous touches. And the mix of new and old worked well. Solid 7/10. Does what it says on the tin.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:51 am 
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Joker has surpassed $1 billion, the first R-rated film to do so, and is now the most profitable comic book movie of all time (thanks to its modest budget). I wonder if this will influence the genre, or if it's a basically a one-off with novelty value and DC and Marvel will continue to make the same movies they've been making so far?

I've found it interesting how the movie has appealed to different people in different ways. I recently spoke with a Chilean socialist who said she found it had a powerful anti-capitalist and pro-civil-disobedience message, which resonated with her as Chile has been through months of serious protests driven by political and economic inequality. It didn't strike me this way, but I understood how someone else could see it differently.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:37 am 
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I still don't think its a "comic book movie" in anything except name?

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:02 am 
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Y'all. Y'ALL! i just got backed from Knives Out, a new whodunit style movie starring Daniel Craig and a bunch of other wonderful people, and I gotta say it's the most fun I've had at the movie all year* and possibly last year too. It's a total crowd pleaser, just fun and delightful from start to finish. I can hardly think of anyone I wouldn't recommend it to so go see it if you have the chance!



*excluding Avengers since that's kind of its own special thing in my mind.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:30 am 
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The trailer looks like a lot of fun. I'm glad to hear that the movie didn't disappoint.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 2:46 am 
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Update - I saw it. It was a lot of fun. Clever plot, brilliant cast, and brilliant casting choices.

Evans tweeted about that scene where the dogs are jumping on him.

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Those dogs were amazing and so sweet! I had their toys hidden in my pockets. Nothing was more satisfying than handing them over once they yelled ‘cut’

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:44 am 
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Oh goodness, how darling is that tweet. What a lovely, lovely man he is. :love:


Glad you liked the movie! I bet the cast had a heck of a lot of fun making it too! :)

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